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    Default Visit to Global Expedition Vehicles

    Recently I visited Global Expedition Vehicles, spent two hours talking with owner Mike Van Pelt, and took a test ride. I flew from Seattle to Springfield Missouri to visit my parents and knew I would kick myself if I didn’t try to see his vehicle, only 25 minutes south of Springfield.

    I’ve followed the traveling and camping aspect of 4x4 travel since reading of the Turtle I in the early 70’s. The build-up of Turtle V and Earthroamer and have given us new information along with the European vehicles we can now see on the internet. I was clear with Mike that I am not a buyer, just someone who has the same interest.

    Mike’s Global Expedition Vehicle is truly amazing, both camper and Unimog U500. His design has the emphasis on global travel, not just North America, and has dictated his choice of vehicle, capacities and systems. The Unimog capabilities are well known but the interior/exterior design, construction, and fit really catch your eye when seen up close. Mike’s camper is top notch using composite walls and built by a truck body manufacturer. It is attached to a sub frame and has the 3-point attachment to the Unimog frame, tilting member at the rear. The camper components are first-rate marine grade and are what you would expect on this type of vehicle. Some of the unique features are a 12-volt Dometic refrigerator and a completely separate 12v freezer located in a pull out drawer. The heating system is plumbed through a diesel boiler so there are multiple ways of heating the camper, heating hot water, and preheating engine coolant. Mike mentioned over 50,000btu/hr for heating capability. The camper air conditioning is unique with around 32,000btu/hr cooling capacity. 36,000btu/hr would be 3 tons of cooling, which is what some houses have. The auxiliary power unit, not just a generator, is also unique with a liquid cooled 3-cylinder diesel engine driving two alternators and the camper air conditioning compressor all through belt drives. Again, Mike’s emphasis is on global so the electrical system has both 110volt and 230-volt capabilities. Mike’s website, www.globalxvehicles.com, also has a discussion on diesel truck engines made in the US designed for ultra low sulphur diesel and traveling outside the US.

    For the test ride, my first ride in a Unimog, included paved road, a dirt construction site and a short run on a four-lane highway. The truck really moves faster than I expected and it did get up to 70 mph. Saying the brakes are capable of stopping it quite quickly is a complete understatement. Looking down from the cab at the road is different for someone who is used to looking over the hood of a truck. At the construction site, Mike made a quick turn and I thought he was going to demonstrate the 32 ft. turning radius. Instead, he stopped at the bottom of a loosely packed embankment, flipped some switches and then drove straight up the embankment. The embankment seemed to be about 45 degrees, maybe a little less. While on the highway, I also noticed that you are actually high enough to look down into the cab of an 18-wheeler.

    From previous posts, there have been questions about the weight of this vehicle. To set this issue to rest, Mike pulled a weigh bill from his file that showed the weight at just under 22,000lbs.

    If you are seriously looking for an expedition vehicle like Earthroamer or Unicat then you should definitely make the trip to visit Mike. For such a serious dollar investment, the cost of the trip would seem to be cheap.

    Thank you Mike.

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    Greg thanks for the first hand account. These vehicles are impressive enough online, but it's always good to get up close and personal feedback. Glad Mike was able to let you kick the tires.

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    I can wrap my brain around the $300k price tag, but the 8mpg thing has me dizzy. By my calculations, a trip to say Alaska and back would cost no less than $4500 in just fuel. Wow.

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    What kind of fuel economy does a "more typical" camper vehicle get? Say, a 25' class C motorhome built on an E450 chassis w/V10 and automatic, or a Dodge Hemi 4X4 pickup w/automatic and cabover camper? The same, or worse.
    Carrying 1/3 to 1/2 the weight, far inferior capabilities, neither worth very much offroad unless the Dodge is a Power Wagon with a popup camper.

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    I average just under 14 miles per gallon in my 2007 Power Wagon, empty. I figure a 2,000 pound payload would quickly bring that down to about 9 or 10 mpg, or less. So 8mpg on an offroad motorhome sounds pretty good.

    By the way, the Power Wagon owner's manual specifically says no slide-in campers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jcbrandon
    By the way, the Power Wagon owner's manual specifically says no slide-in campers.
    Any idea why? Other than the stock height of a PW, (making it more difficult to get under a camper) it seems a perfect base vehicle for a hardy slide-in unit.
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    My best guess is that lawyers got involved. The Power Wagon is significantly taller than a regular Dodge Ram Heavy Duty. A high center of gravity increases risk of lawsuits.

    There is strong evidence of this fear in the other features of the truck. The front and rear electric lockers will only engage when you are in low range. And the electric front swaybar disconnect automatically re-connects at 18 miles per hour. Also, the navigation system has some features disabled while the truck is moving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charlieaarons
    What kind of fuel economy does a "more typical" camper vehicle get? Say, a 25' class C motorhome built on an E450 chassis w/V10 and automatic, or a Dodge Hemi 4X4 pickup w/automatic and cabover camper? The same, or worse.
    Carrying 1/3 to 1/2 the weight, far inferior capabilities, neither worth very much offroad unless the Dodge is a Power Wagon with a popup camper.

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    Maybe true for gasoline trucks, but that's going 75mph, not 55mph.

    My '96 Dodge 3500 Dually-Cummins w/ 11' fully loaded Lance got 13-16mpg. Since it had the low gear option, it did better on slow twisty mountain roads at 50mph than on the freeway at 65. The newer electronic Cummins do better.

    My '77 Bluebird Wanderlodge Bus averages 9-10mpg on the freeway.
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    So Greg showed up here, plugged GEV, and hasn't had anything else to say? (posts = 1)

    I think that's spelled S P A M.

    Or maybe he's just the quiet type...

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    Lynn,

    Yes, sometimes I am the quiet type, however the discussion lost me when it turned to Dodge and gas mileage. Mike Van Pelt did tell me what he was getting for gas mileage with the Unimog and it was respectable. I would prefer he comment on that.

    From my point of view if you had enough money to buy a vehicle of this type you also have to have the time, meaning months, available to use it. You'd be independently wealthy and the price of diesel would not be a big concern. I am not in that position.

    Also, as someone from the truck camper crowd pointed out, diesel in Mexico is cheap comparatively. Venezuela is very probably cheaper.

    My own thoughts on a vehicle are more basic. To me, just getting up off the ground and being protected from wind in rain is great. Having hard sides around me gives me a little warning time. Water carrying capacity is important along with refrigeration for food. Off-road capability is good. I would deal with extreme cold differently and the cabin needs to be aired out quickly. My own rule is to not go camping in weather so bad the truck won't start or I get it stuck.

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