All Terrain Campers

[kcowyo]

New company with 2 guys formerly with Four Wheel Campers, making a similar pop up slide-in unit with a lightweight aluminum frame. I don't know anymore than that, just sharing a link to their website.

Linky - All Terrain Campers

[robert]

Those look really nice but I bet FourWheel camper's lawyers call and discuss their designs with them (they look like a straight copy). I'd love to see some competition drive prices down though.

[oly884]

KC, I saw that too, thought it was interesting with how it looks exactly like our 4WC's. I'm sure there has to be some legal things going on there, even if they signed a non-compete.

[Colorado Ron]

sorry, but I dont support people that take others EXACT ideas and try and profit from it. Come up with your own design guys. Lame in my opinion.

[Doin_It]

I agree 100% with you there Ron

sorry, but I dont support people that take others EXACT ideas and try and profit from it. Come up with your own design guys. Lame in my opinion.

but that is the " American way". A good friend of mine who started, http://solatube.com has had to sue a couple of companies because they copied his ideas. So you see even if you have an idea, or you hold patents, as Dave did, you have to be willing to back it up with lawyers and law suits to protect your ideas, patents and company. Go figure, as I said, it's America, and people can try those stunts here. Unless of course you are the U.S. goverment, then you sue online British gambling companies because U.S citizens are gambing with them and online gambing is illegal in the U.S., again..............its America, go figure.

[OutbacKamper]

sorry, but I dont support people that take others EXACT ideas and try and profit from it. Come up with your own design guys. Lame in my opinion.

I think you may be jumping to an unfair conclusion here Ron. One of the owners of all-terrain used to own 4wheel until 2001, so it is possible (likely?) that he owns the rights to this design. I know that the lift system is patented.

Cheers
Mark

[pskhaat]

But campers themselves aren't exactly a patentable idea, or even IP that could be contested. Just because Ford makes vehicles doesn't mean Suzuki can't.

Even with a valid legal claim, there could be innovation in these that are not the original product.

Patents and intellictual `rights' IMO at the end of the day are anti-market. If you can do it better, and you can do it cheaper, AND people want to buy it over the other options, you now have a market. Legally restrict that?

[VikingVince]

KC,

Interesting find...they really do look like a close copy. I haven't checked FWC prices lately but these guys look to be priced about the same...right? Do you happen to know when they started their own company? Actually, I wish they were substantially undercutting FWC's prices (to gain market share)...I might buy a new one then!

[bigreen505]

Since everyone is jumping to conclusions with no information, I'll join in. Since the lift is patented (assuming the patent has not expired) and they were formerly with FWC, what is to suggest that they didn't simply license the design?

Because it is similar does not mean it is an exact copy or a design ripoff.

[articulate]

New company with 2 guys formerly with Four Wheel Campers, making a similar pop up slide-in unit with a lightweight aluminum frame. I don't know anymore than that, just sharing a link to their website.

Linky - All Terrain Campers

What the inqusitive and tolerant public wants to know (other than "who owns the idea behind this one? Let's go rape and pillage the guy who stole from FWC!") is how many splattered bugs will that thing mount upon it's flat and foward-facing surfaces if it were On The Road w/KC?

Ewwwwww!