loaded gun in the glovebox?

[BigAl]

I was having a discussion over lunch. My buddies premise is that it is legal to have a loaded gun stored in your glove box b/c it's an extension of your home. We are in PA. Does a concealed carry permit make a difference? Not interested in whether it's a good idea, only if it is legal and it what cirmumstance?

[RMP&O]

I think it varies state to state. In general a big no go though.....a few states it may not be a problem but overall it will get you in trouble.

I would think a concealed permit would make a difference but I am only guessing....

[Mr. Leary]

Of course its legal in Texas. Active September 2007 it falls under the "Castle Laws" which extend your rights to protection of your home to your vehicle.

That being said, it is always a good idea to get a CHL. You may know the laws in your own state, but you may not be as familiar with the laws in other states, and are better protected with a CHL in your wallet. There are reciprocity rules and arrangements between CHL states.

Details here.

More details here.

[DaveM]

I don’t believe there is any such thing as an extension of residence. In your vehicle, beyond your driveway, you are in public space not private. The glove box, if locked may be a suitable storage place for transporting a firearm. If unlocked it would amount to concealing a weapon IMO.

Edited to add: Texas and Alaska not withstanding ; )

[cruiseroutfit]

100% legal in Utah with or without a CWP. A little bit of the west still lives here.

You need to be extremely careful with the reciprocity of other states. For instance some states don't recognized the CWP's of a neighboring state, while others do.

[Street Wolf]

I don’t believe there is any such thing as an extension of residence. In your vehicle, beyond your driveway, you are in public space not private. The glove box, if locked may be a suitable storage place for transporting a firearm. If unlocked it would amount to concealing a weapon IMO.

Edited to add: Texas and Alaska not withstanding ; )

Perhaps in your state. However he was referring to Texas, which has the right idea.

[DaveM]

Perhaps in your state. However he was referring to Texas, which has the right idea.

We cross posted; I was actually replying to the original poster not the one above me. I knew about the Texas law, not the Utah one though. I guess what I'm saying is in the absence of a specific state law granting that right, then no it is not an extension your home and therefore concealment.

[cruiseroutfit]

I don’t believe there is any such thing as an extension of residence. In your vehicle, beyond your driveway, you are in public space not private. The glove box, if locked may be a suitable storage place for transporting a firearm. If unlocked it would amount to concealing a weapon IMO.

Edited to add: Texas and Alaska not withstanding ; )

When I am in my vehicle I am indeed in private space. No different then my house surrounded by public land.

I'm not giving you an opinion that it is legal, I'm telling you that the State of Utah considers it legal, so while you feel it is 'concealing a weapon', we consider it protecting our rights

"This will essentially allow anyone who can legally own a gun to have it with them in their car, business or house, loaded or unloaded,concealed or visible, without need for a concealed weapon permit. Only the car part is new, and this reflects practices in most states in the mountain west, and more than a dozen other states. Another dozen or more states have similar but not identical provisions. None of the states allowing this practice have any problems or history of endangering law enforcement officers in traffic stops or shoot-outs over road rage. Yes, bad guys already illegally carry guns in their cars in every state, and do attack cops, but the proposed law does not protect the criminals in any way."


If you would like to read more about the Utah particular law, its House Bill 78 of the 2009 General Session, passed.

[DaveM]

[quote=cruiseroutfit;510635]When I am in my vehicle I am indeed in private space. No different then my house surrounded by public land.

I'm not giving you an opinion that it is legal, I'm telling you that the State of Utah considers it legal, so while you feel it is 'concealing a weapon', we consider it protecting our rights
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Please see my followup post above.

[cruiseroutfit]

...Please see my followup post above.

Gotcha, context is king, I thought you were referring to states in general