Current diesel SUV's in the US - making the best of what's here?

Our diesel BMW X5 35d is priced ~$4K less than the X5 48i which has less torque, more hp and equal acceleration. The 48i is rated at 14mpg city driving; our 35d gets 22mpg in Anchorage city type driving. the gas X5s require premium gas which is priced equal to diesel in our area. Even the lower powered slightly cheaper (by about $3-4K) 30i gets only 15mpg city driving.
It works out for me; plus I'm a diesel freak.

Charlie
 

stevec

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The question for me becomes, "How long will it take to recovery an investment in diesel anything?"

Though it varies from week to week, diesel these days is typically as much, if not more, than regular unleaded. Right now they are about the same in my area - last night I paid $2.99 for diesel; reg. unleaded at the same station was $3.09, and premium was $3.39.

On a similar vehicle, a diesel will usually give you better mileage and much more towing power. My Ford F-250 gets 17-18mpg on average, the gas V8 gets 12-13, and the V10 is lucky to get 10-11mpg. (My dad has the same truck as me, but he has the V10, so we've done some comparisons.) I can put 3500# of camper on my truck, and another 8000# of trailer behind it, and still get 12-13mpg; dad's V10 drops to about 7 just towing his 5000# trailer. I've put 137K miles on my truck in nine years; probably about 1/4 of that towing/hauling, so my overall average is probably about 16mpg. The V8 gasser would probably be around 11, and the V10 would probably be 9mpg. Based on these numbers, dad's truck would have burned over 15,200 gallons of gas, the V8 would burn about 12,500 (and be gutless when hauling anything), while I've only used about 8,600 gallons of diesel. Even if gas averaged $2.50/gallon over that time, and diesel averaged $3.00/gal, I've saved $12,300 over dad in gas costs, and $5,600 over the V8 over the last nine years.

Diesel owners also benefit from higher resale value, when selling or trading in the vehicle. I bought my truck brand new in 2001, and the diesel was a $4,700 option. As of today, NADA adds $3,700 to the value at trade in/sale for the diesel engine, and KBB adds $4,100. Not bad when the rest of the truck has lost over half it's value!
 

Dale

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I searched several months for a Diesel 1998-2002; didn't really care if it was a Powerstroke 7.3L F250, Cummings 2500 or Duramax 2500. In Western, PA Diesel fuel is typically the same price as Premium Reformulated Gasoline. The cost difference wass 8k-10k more for a diesel engine regardless of mfg. and all the available trucks that fit my criteria had over 200k OK for the engine; but, well worn and rusted. I really wanted to try out veg oil; but, there are some downfalls with that too. Used Veg Oil is now a commidity and biodiesel companies are paying $ for it, so good luck finding free fryer grease (at least in my hood)....In the end, after a lot of frustration, I ended up with a Dodge 2500 with a 5.9L Magnum (gas) for pretty cheap so its going to take me a while to burn up $10k worth of gas.
 

x32792

Adventurer
I searched several months for a Diesel 1998-2002; didn't really care if it was a Powerstroke 7.3L F250, Cummings 2500 or Duramax 2500. In Western, PA Diesel fuel is typically the same price as Premium Reformulated Gasoline. The cost difference wass 8k-10k more for a diesel engine regardless of mfg. and all the available trucks that fit my criteria had over 200k OK for the engine; but, well worn and rusted. I really wanted to try out veg oil; but, there are some downfalls with that too. Used Veg Oil is now a commidity and biodiesel companies are paying $ for it, so good luck finding free fryer grease (at least in my hood)....In the end, after a lot of frustration, I ended up with a Dodge 2500 with a 5.9L Magnum (gas) for pretty cheap so its going to take me a while to burn up $10k worth of gas.

$10K/$3 per gallon is a lot of gallons (and many miles to break even).

Armed with local knowledge, there may be a price advantage diesel vs gas? But on my recent trip back from NV to FL on the superslab, diesel fuel was more expensive than any grade of gasoline.

That said, if I could buy a nice little 2.8L turbo CRD in the USA, I could be lured to diesel.
 

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