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Thread: Non-Mitsubishi Montero?

  1. #11
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    Wow,....well first of all I said "pondering" the swap. The Toyota guys swap this engine in place of the 22r all the time, and the engine bay is about the same size.
    Secondly, I know there are easier engines to swap in, but the 5mge(8x,xxx miles) is what I have access to. It's the "build what you got" theory.
    Lastly, the Montero, which is not running(head issues, big surprise), is being offered to me for free. The 5mge is coming out of a Cressida that I got for free, as well.
    I have projected a $1500 budget for this venture. Parting out the Cressida has payed for a flywheel and bellhousing already, so I'm already ahead budget-wise. If I change my mind, I can always drop the 5mge into a Toyota truck, so no loss to me.

  2. #12
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    I would say go for it but that is a tight budget. You are way ahead with the rig and engine already. I had an 85 Montero and it was just about the funnest rig Ive owned. It wasn't fast, but neither is my 4runner, it just went. The suspension seat is really comfortable, the vehicles suspension is STOUT, and with the limited slip in the rear of mine the thing would go anywhere. The visibility is great in the montero and Ill bet you couldnt keep a smile off your face if you get it running and can wheel it. If you have nothing else to do get to work and have some fun!!!

  3. #13
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    Well here's my projected budget, keep in mind I'm in Hawaii and shipping cost can be ridiculous.

    Bellhousing and flywheel.................$200
    Tranny and transfer case...............$300
    Clutch kit....................................$200
    Driveshafts..................................$400
    Misc...........................................$40 0

    I'm underbudget on the bell/flywheel and the tranny/t.c.
    I found a local shop that can do the driveshafts, so that should help keep the cost down. But I doubt I can meet the misc. budget.
    The exhaust is on the same side, so shouldn't be a problem. The Montero weighs about the same as a Cressida, so power should be sufficient. Should be interesting though.

  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhyrraM View Post
    I always thought a good swap candidate for a Gen 1 would be a 3.8 Ford V6 from the TBird SuperCoupe and a F150/Bronco trans and transfer case.

    210HP and 315ft/lbs before any tuning or tweaking (230/330 for the rarer '94/'95 models). The 3.8 shares a bellhousing with the 302/5.0/351W so transmission and transfercase options exsist. Not as compact as the GM 2.8/3.1, but I'm sure there would be no problems with a Gen1 engine bay. Good reliabity once you ditch the OEM graphite/composite headgaskets for the new MLS ones. There is a small, but dedicated, following that has the knowhow and parts to take these things close to 500HP if you feel the need. You can pick up a donor Tbird SC for dirt cheap.
    Why would you want that much HP? It's not very useful off road and well running that onroad is a waste on this rig IMHO. It's a 4x4 not a sports car but again that my opinion and I'm also of the opinion to each their own.

    1989 SWB Montero (3.0L v6, rear LSD), 33" mudders
    1996 Montero SR (3.5L v6, rear Locker), 35" mudders, 3.15:1 xcase crawler gears
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    Quote Originally Posted by off-roader View Post
    Why would you want that much HP? It's not very useful off road and well running that onroad is a waste on this rig IMHO. It's a 4x4 not a sports car but again that my opinion and I'm also of the opinion to each their own.

    If I was to ever do it, mine would be stock power levels. I was just pointing out where you could go, if one had the desire. The cost/performance ratio, especially the easy torque, is what I think makes that particular combo stand out.

    I suppose the GM Supercharged V6 (L67) from the Bonerville and some Buicks along with the proper GM trans and transfercase would make a suitable substitute if you can convert them from transverse mounting.

    I've built a turbo G54B Raider and it's perfectly adequate, and currently own a '95 SR (on 33s) that is just a touch pokey on the highway, but otherwise fine.

    Sounds like the OP has his plan pretty well figured out.

  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhyrraM View Post
    Sounds like the OP has his plan pretty well figured out.
    Yeah, well like most plans, it looks good on paper....but you know what usually happens

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