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Thread: Tire Selection for Expedition Travel

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    Default Tire Selection for Expedition Travel

    A few months ago I researched tire selection in detail, and produced this white paper.

    My findings and tests have changed the way I (and others) purchase tires.

    I thought some of you would appreciate the read. And I am always open to additional thoughts and feedback.

    Tire Selection for Expedition Travel
    Scott Brady
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    Nice write up! Very detailed, too.
    Peace and Mud,
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    I humbly consider myself a bit of a lonely pioneer in this field, in the U.S. anyway. In 1986, I think, I installed a set of factory Toyota split rims (16x6) on my FJ40, along with BFG All-Terrains in 235/85R16--a VERY rare commodity then. This was after reading many accounts of expedition work in Africa and Austrailia, where skinny Michelin XS 7.50x16 tires seemed to be the standard. All my friends had 33x12.5s stuffed into their wheels wells, and laughed at my bicycle tires. When it developed that I could go anywhere they could, with obviously less strain on steering and suspension and biceps, they changed their minds.

    The split rims didn't work out for this country, because tires here are not made for tubes (which I found out the hard way after two catasrophic tire failures). But I never abandoned the narrow tire concept, and now run 255/85/16 BFG Mud Terrains. It took Scott to elucidate so clearly why narrow tires work so well.

    In Africa the universal standard is still a 7.50x16 tube-type tire on split rims, often manufactured in Africa. Firestone makes a 10-ply tire in Kenya that is nearly indestructible; I've also seen BFGs and Dunlops, among others. Not many fancy tread patterns, just simple lugs. Wide tires are almost vanishingly rare except in cities.

    A mechanic I know there related a long remote drive during which he suffered two flats, using up both spares. He dismounted one tire and stuffed it with grass, giving it enough shape to reach the next village. The tire was destroyed by then, but he saved himself a 40-mile walk through hyena country at night.

    So, another advantage to narrow tires: It takes less grass to stuff one!

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    So, another advantage to narrow tires: It takes less grass to stuff one![/QUOTE]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Hanson
    So, another advantage to narrow tires: It takes less grass to stuff one!
    I dont know how I missed that I need to add that to the tome...

    Seriously though, the 255/85's look great on Jonathans cruiser, and perform excellent too.
    Scott Brady
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    bringing back the dead. the oldest thread on here.

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    Subscribed for reference!

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    Im digging my skinny tires. They have done great in snow so far and have not affected mileage.
    2010 Toyota Tacoma TRD Offroad with 235/85/16 Cooper AT3's...

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    I think this was one of the original threads that convinced me to go with a 235/85R16 on my Toyota Tacoma.

    Now I'm trying to replicate that tall, narrow profile on a Ford F350 4x4 with a mild, Carli 2.5" lift/leveling kit and wondering if I should stick with the OEM 17 x 7.5 wheels or go up to an 18 x 8.5 wheel.

    And, of course, the issue of what size tire to install still lingers. 35" just right? 37"? What's the impact?

    Etc, etc, etc.
    Alright, this is just fancy car camping, people. Move along, move along.

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