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Thread: Beetle Off Road camper build

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    Default Beetle Off Road camper build

    Hey guys i am new to the site and would like to share my current project with all of you. All the work on the build is getting done by me with the help of some of the guys i rent the shop with. i work in a cold storage warehouse and have no formal training working on cars. i am 21 and all the other guys are around my age.

    I got the bug for 1000 bucks. its got a rebuilt DP 1600 and brand new tires. it also has bus portal ends. it has very little rust for its age but i am still going to do a full body off resto. once the rust repair and paint is finished i want to make it a camping rig. i love tent camping and backpacking so i will be able to keep it light and simple. i will be building it with a minimalist backpacker mindset.













    plan is to build another rack over the motor to hold a cooler. put a stove and a sink in the front trunk along with other cooking stuff. i am not sure what i want to set up the back seat area for. i am thinking shelves or maybe a flat padded area where i can sleep or stow gear.

    i also dont know what color i want to paint it. maybe flat tan OD green or even gloss white. i would like your opinions on that and what things are absolutely necessary and what things may be worth adding.

    i started the tear down in the shop.



    motor out







    taking the fiberglass fenders off



    after that i took the trans out and got the body off. also made a rolling stand for the body. i will get pics of all that when i get back over to the shop tomorrow.

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    This should be interesting...
    Cooler over the engine I would think heat would be a concern.

    I have spent very little time in bettles, can you do something with a fold flat front seat and a platform in the back (with storage under) to make a big wide sleeping platform?

    Since you are in NJ it would seem cold/snow is the big worry, I bet these do well with the light weight.

    Keep us posted
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    You've got a great basis for a minimalist expedition vehicle! In the early '70's I had a VW 1600 with cut out wheel wells and big tires. Went all over the Sierras and Baja. With the added clearance of the portal axels you will be able to go anywhere you want! Keep the open differental, just add cut brakes. Cut brakes let you control the power distribution and are better than a locker in low traction situations, especially with the weight over the drive wheels.
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    Steering (cutting) brakes are a great way to control tire slip, and divert power to the opposite wheel.

    I used to use my '67 Baja Bug for hunting and camping. If you don't have a passenger, there is plenty of room to build a sleeping platform on the passenger side. Remove the back seat, and build a storage area there. Even the driver-side rear window can be replaced with a slide out unit (cooking?).

    Get the heater cans for the exhaust, and put the heaters back together. If they are sealed properly, they work well. Keep a squeegee for clearing condensation on the inside of the windshield, until the windows warm up.

    Bypass the internal oil-cooler, and install an external cooler and filter.

    On your swing axle, you need to rotate the boots, so the bolted seam is either forward or backward of the axle. This way that seam is only bent sideways, not stretched. Otherwise they will always leak.

    If you can find one, get a front beam from a VW Thing. Both ball joints face down, reducing stress on the lower ball joint. It is also taller, like the portal axles on the rear. If you can't find a Thing front beam, buy an adapter to install a kingpin front beam.
    http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifie...php?id=1054922
    Might be able to just get the spindles and lower arms, to get the same results.
    http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifie...php?id=1028651

    Switch out the generator for an alternator (bolts right in).

    Your fuel tank is up front, so I would not suggest trying to cook there (BOOM! ).

    Where is NTSQD? I think he still has some VW based toys.

    Bugs are fun. Your build will be fun to watch. Keep us posted.
    Last edited by Photog; 12-06-2010 at 11:29 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1leglance View Post
    Cooler over the engine I would think heat would be a concern.
    never really thought of that good point... i will have to see how much heat actually builds up over that thing. i dont think it would be to bad at highway speeds but it may pose a problem offroad.


    Quote Originally Posted by Photog View Post
    Steering (cutting) brakes are a great way to control tire slip, and divert power to the opposite wheel.

    I used to use my '67 Baja Bug for hunting and camping. If you don't have a passenger, there is plenty of room to build a sleeping platform on the passenger side. Remove the back seat, and build a storage area there. Even the driver-side rear window can be replaced with a slide out unit (cooking?).

    Get the heater cans for the exhaust, and put the heaters back together. If they are sealed properly, they work well. Keep a squeegee for clearing condensation on the inside of the windshield, until the windows warm up.

    Bypass the internal oil-cooler, and install an external cooler and filter.

    On your swing axle, you need to rotate the boots, so the bolted seam is either forward or backward of the axle. This way that seam is only bent sideways, not stretched. Otherwise they will always leak.

    If you can find one, get a front beam from a VW Thing. Both ball joints face down, reducing stress on the lower ball joint. It is also taller, like the portal axles on the rear. If you can't find a Thing front beam, buy an adapter to install a kingpin front beam.
    http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifie...php?id=1054922
    Might be able to just get the spindles and lower arms, to get the same results.
    http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifie...php?id=1028651

    Switch out the generator for an alternator (bolts right in).

    Your fuel tank is up front, so I would not suggest trying to cook there (BOOM! ).

    Where is NTSQD? I think he still has some VW based toys.

    Bugs are fun. Your build will be fun to watch. Keep us posted.

    thinking about adding a larger fuel cell in the back so i can do the stove up front and have a farther range. i have a kingpin beam for the front. i plan on widening it to match the rear width with the portals and adding adjusters. i am also going to make 3 inch lift spindles to match the portals. thanks for the tips on the boots.

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    Sounds good.

    You can replace the lower part of the rear seat, with a fuel cell. Then move the battery up front, under the hood (keeps the battery away from the fuel tank). if you have the fuel cell made properly, the rear space will be one level (under rear window and over the fuel cell). This can be the beginning of a sleeping/storage platform (feet and legs on passenger side & head under rear glass).

    How are you going to attach your kingpin front beam? If you do a 3" lift spindle, you will have to do set up a different speedometer system. The lower linkpin will be in the way of a normal cable through a hollow spindle. You might be able to use a magnetic speed sensor similar to those used on bicycles.
    Brian

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    Thought of this when I read the title of this thread



    Yeah, that's a beetle with a 5th wheel

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56XL0TysIn0"]YouTube - 1974 Volkswagen Beetle & Camper - road test[/ame]

    yours is cooler though

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    For many years I have wanted to do the exact same thing.

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    Although I am not into Baja bugs any more, I still love talking about them. My buddy Mark and I were really heavy into documenting everything we did for the DIY'ers out there. You can check out all of our baja bug related stuff at http://www.blindchickenracing.com. There are something like 3000+ pictures to look at, from tools, how to's, outings, custom projects, etc....

    My two cars were the tube chassis build that was abruptly stopped and later sold to Mark to clear out my garage. My primary baja bug was the Orange one, that was later stolen from out front of my house. Later to be found a week later stripped of everything. I lost interest in the whole thing and moved on to other hobbies at this point.

    I know one day when my son is driving, we'll probably build another baja bug for him to beat up.

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    Great looking project.

    VW bus portals??
    How strong are these portals and what vehicles did they come on?

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