Best tire carrier spindles

LJ_24

Adventurer
Okay, I am still in the middle of a roof rack build but let me just say that having access to a welder is convenient but also hurts the wallet(not as much as buying ready made parts tho) haha What is the best spindle assembly? I am only seeing the IPOR spindle as the only option? I am making what you can call a rear bumper in some way haha But I am just trying to get rid of the rear tupperware plastic bumper and mount a spare tire carrier!:ylsmoke:

Thanks in advance guys!

-LD

Edit: As I find spindle options, I will post them

Competition4x4(1750 # rating)-$85
http://www.comp4x4.com/tire_carrier_hinge_kit_2000.html

Iron pig offroad(no load rating)-$48.75
http://www.ironpigoffroad.com//index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=61&products_id=74

AtoZ Fabrication
Tire Carrier Swingout Heavy Duty Hinge Kit - $49.95 (1000lbs rating)
Tire Carrier Swingout Mega Spingle Hinge Kit - $69.95 (1800lbs rating?, not clear in description, only says 80% stronger)
http://www.atozfabrication.com/store...Hinge-Kit.html

4x4labs (3500# rating)-$95
http://www.4x4labs.com/products/rear-bumpers/heavy-duty-spindles/
 
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SLO_F-250

Explorer
I can't vouch for one over the other, but I came across this spindle during my research in the past. It's just another to add to your list.

Tire Carrier Swingout Heavy Duty Hinge Kit - $49.95 (1000lbs rating)
Tire Carrier Swingout Mega Spingle Hinge Kit - $69.95 (1800lbs rating?, not clear in description, only says 80% stronger)
http://www.atozfabrication.com/store/Tire-Carrier-Swingout-Heavy-Duty-Hinge-Kit.html

I helped a buddy build a bumper for his camper van with these (1000lbs rated kit). Very heavy duty, and IMO seemed plenty overkill for a spare tire swing out. The were very high quality, and installed painlessly. He ended up doing a swingout on each side. One a spare tire and the other was a storage box. Good luck on the build. :ylsmoke:
 

LJ_24

Adventurer
I can't vouch for one over the other, but I came across this spindle during my research in the past. It's just another to add to your list.

Tire Carrier Swingout Heavy Duty Hinge Kit - $49.95 (1000lbs rating)
Tire Carrier Swingout Mega Spingle Hinge Kit - $69.95 (1800lbs rating?, not clear in description, only says 80% stronger)
http://www.atozfabrication.com/store/Tire-Carrier-Swingout-Heavy-Duty-Hinge-Kit.html

I helped a buddy build a bumper for his camper van with these (1000lbs rated kit). Very heavy duty, and IMO seemed plenty overkill for a spare tire swing out. The were very high quality, and installed painlessly. He ended up doing a swingout on each side. One a spare tire and the other was a storage box. Good luck on the build. :ylsmoke:

Thanks for the help guys! @SLO_f250: DO you happen to have pictures and a writeup on your buddy's bumper buildup?:)
 

ColoradoBill

Adventurer
I have two of the 1000lb spindles from AtoZ on my rear bumper. One for the spare (35" on a steel wheel) and the other for a gas can carrier, (holds 4 scepters). I am very happy with them. Very high quality steel and the kit comes with everything needed. Highly recommended.
 

shogun

Adventurer
Been through this before. A trailer axle/spindle WILL break. Just a matter of time. As I understand it, the problem is welding it and changing the heat-treat. Folks who make a living off of selling these will deny it, but I have seen enough of them go south. They will break.

The ones with the support arm the comes up alongside are another possibility, but from a structural standpoint dont add a whole lot of additional strength. To me, ball bearings are silly on something that moves 90-120 degrees and only a couple times a year. But it is a nice touch. I recommend you take as much load off of the hinge in the closed position by supporting the arm on a delrin pad under the tire.

Might want to look here;

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36482
 

JamesDowning

Explorer
I used this one in my rear bumper build: http://www.emsoffroad.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=78&products_id=182

I don't have a whole lot of time with the product yet, but so far it's held up wonderfully.

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LJ_24

Adventurer
Been through this before. A trailer axle/spindle WILL break. Just a matter of time. As I understand it, the problem is welding it and changing the heat-treat. Folks who make a living off of selling these will deny it, but I have seen enough of them go south. They will break.

The ones with the support arm the comes up alongside are another possibility, but from a structural standpoint dont add a whole lot of additional strength. To me, ball bearings are silly on something that moves 90-120 degrees and only a couple times a year. But it is a nice touch. I recommend you take as much load off of the hinge in the closed position by supporting the arm on a delrin pad under the tire.

Might want to look here;

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36482

Awesome! Thanks, thats a helpful thread:)

I used this one in my rear bumper build: http://www.emsoffroad.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=78&products_id=182

I don't have a whole lot of time with the product yet, but so far it's held up wonderfully.

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What size spare are you running?
 

JamesDowning

Explorer
It's a 32". I'll be swapping to a 33" soon.

I have 5 gallons of gas, the 60 lb tire/wheel, and the hi-lift mounted to it. Good amount of weight in total.
 

LJ_24

Adventurer
I think I will be going with the 4x4labs spindles! Its hard to beat 3500# and a good rep! How bout latches? Is there a good source for latches? I've looked on those fabrication sites but dont know what exactly to look for
 

ColoradoBill

Adventurer
Been through this before. A trailer axle/spindle WILL break. Just a matter of time. As I understand it, the problem is welding it and changing the heat-treat. Folks who make a living off of selling these will deny it, but I have seen enough of them go south. They will break.

The ones with the support arm the comes up alongside are another possibility, but from a structural standpoint dont add a whole lot of additional strength. To me, ball bearings are silly on something that moves 90-120 degrees and only a couple times a year. But it is a nice touch. I recommend you take as much load off of the hinge in the closed position by supporting the arm on a delrin pad under the tire.

Might want to look here;

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36482


I built my carrier two and a half years ago, it has been on some very tough trails in CO,AZ, and UT, and countless miles of washboard roads (the real test).
I do have a support on the end that supports the carrier when closed. I wouldn't think anyone would build one without a support of some kind no matter what kind of hinge they used.

As far as a latch I used these-

http://www.mcmaster.com/#pull-action-toggle-clamps/=bjb1wc

They are holding up well.
 

SLO_F-250

Explorer
Thanks for the help guys! @SLO_f250: DO you happen to have pictures and a writeup on your buddy's bumper buildup?:)

Unfortunately I don't, but I might be able to get a few from my buddy. If not, good luck on the project. There are plenty of great examples on here.

Personally, Im going with the heim joint option because I have (2) laying around my shop. Free.99 is a good price! :victory:
 

LJ_24

Adventurer
Okay, I am confused now as I do more research...when I purchase the spindle assembly:
1. Weld spindle to selected mounting point

then...(this is where I'm lost, sorry for the first time lack of experience)

2. Weld the swing arm assembly to the sleeve? Or do I need to fab up another circular sleeve-swingarm assembly to go around the spindle assembly

the more searching I do, the more I get lost. I guess cos people who have the fab skills cant dumb it down enough for a newbie

Thanks again, I appreciate all this help!

Edit: I attached the picture of the part that I'm talking about
 

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TangoBlue

American Adventurist
I have the IPOR spindle... the steel you see, 35 in spare (~ 100 lbs), and a dual Jerry can carrier, so about another 100 lbs. You can jump up and down on it with the arm extended; I'm not an engineer but that's a lot of weight.

As you can see my swing arm is welded to the sleeve and a locking pin is welded to the sleeve as well, locking the arm at a 90* angle when open to prevent damage to the tailgate. Note the simple ramped metal tab with pin hole to capture the locking pin. McMaster-Carr is the source.

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