Jeep Wrangler Habitat Official Release

[Kermit]

So what you're saying is even if it was two king beds with 6 feet between them, you still wouldn't be happy.

It's obvious there is no product in existence that would satisfy your wants in this regard. (4 adults in one camping unit)

At that point, it's not worth you commenting on that feature of the products at all.

-Dan

Where did I say I want 4 people in one sleeping unit? There are plenty of products out there
that will satisfy two person travel, actually more out there than a 4 person.

Why I don't like the "having to crawl through a hole to access the sleeping area"
design of it, why people like myself who don't want the chummy 4 person daisy-chain sleeping
arrangements...and much rather have a more open (read: more useful) floor plan.

Not everyone has kids..nor wants the extra sleeping area.

Much rather have this setup:

There is a reason why in other parts of the world,
the design below is grossly more popular the Habitat porthole version,
otherwise just get a RTT.

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Than this:

This seems like a lot of wasted space, in an already space limited vehicle.



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Even if it weren't adults, some people have kids and may wish to keep young ones close. Even for me it isn't that I would set out to have four adults up there, but just that you COULD if you needed to (flooded tent on the ground etc). Or if the weather is crap, a few people could hang out up top without an issue. Space to sit up and change, stretch, stow bags, etc is great.
You may not have close friends but that isn't a flaw with the product.

See above....us without children or the swinging lifestyle, wouldn't mind an interior kitchen to cook food during inclement weather.

Or have the ability to hangout without standing up through a single porthole.

I like the JP Unlimited, I like the AT Habitat....don't like that porthole though, bit of a letdown really.

Some of us were looking for a "poormans" ER-JK, an open/spacious floorplan...a more useful floorplan...

...envisioned possibilities like this:

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[kb7our]

Where did I say I want 4 people in one sleeping unit? There are plenty of products out there
that will satisfy two person travel, actually more out there than a 4 person.

Why I don't like the "having to crawl through a hole to access the sleeping area"
design of it, why people like myself who don't want the chummy 4 person daisy-chain sleeping
arrangements...and much rather have a more open (read: more useful) floor plan.

Not everyone has kids..nor wants the extra sleeping area.

Much rather have this setup:

There is a reason why in other parts of the world,
the design below is grossly more popular the Habitat porthole version,
otherwise just get a RTT.

galerie_11.jpg

galerie_7.jpg


Than this:

This seems like a lot of wasted space, in an already space limited vehicle.



J8stuart.jpg




See above....us without children or the swinging lifestyle, wouldn't mind an interior kitchen to cook food during inclement weather.

Or have the ability to hangout without standing up through a single porthole.

I like the JP Unlimited, I like the AT Habitat....don't like that porthole though, bit of a letdown really.

Some of us were looking for a "poormans" ER-JK, an open/spacious floorplan...a more useful floorplan...

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Maybe UMV or AT will chime in on the possibility of a more open design with only the front bed.

[Kermit]

Maybe UMV or AT will chime in on the possibility of a more open design with only the front bed.

I would say at least make it an option, which also opens up more products for them the sell. Cabinetry, stovetops, bench/storage, etc...

Plus you could incorporate an additional sleeping area with the open design, by using a sectional sleeping platform.
For those who want the 4 person capacity. It makes for a more versatile product.

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[elcoyote]

It's all about choices, options and compromises, especially when dealing with a relatively small platform Kermit.

The Earthroamer XV JP is a discontinued product, about $125K. The ActionCamper is $53K + the Jeep. The Habitat is $7599.

Opening the rear roof means losing the rear seat and the protection of the rear roll bar. That doesn't work for everyone. We offer an option in the Habitat that works for some and we understand that. We also sell the Actioncamper for those who want the alternative open roof you want.

If you want an ActionCamper or a XV-JP at a Habitat price point....that's going to be a challenge.

[bamajeep]

Dont loose the back seat, just fold it down when needed. And modify the roll cage to have the open space. That way you can still take the wife and kids and when you get to the camp site just fold down the rear seat and you have plenty of standing room our sleeping room on the floor. Then the customer could build custom interior storage to there needs.

[cnynrat]

Dont loose the back seat, just fold it down when needed. And modify the roll cage to have the open space. That way you can still take the wife and kids and when you get to the camp site just fold down the rear seat and you have plenty of standing room our sleeping room on the floor. Then the customer could build custom interior storage to there needs.

I wonder if there wouldn't be some potential product liability issues as soon as you start modifying the roll cage. Much simpler and less expensive to rely on the OEM stuff from Jeep.

[washington taco]

I wonder if there wouldn't be some potential product liability issues as soon as you start modifying the roll cage. Much simpler and less expensive to rely on the OEM stuff from Jeep.

The reason why A/T didn't mess with it in the first place. I am sure their product liabilty lawyer told them not to touch the factory safety items.

[grecy]

Dont loose the back seat, just fold it down when needed. And modify the roll cage to have the open space.

I plan on modifying the rear roll cage to "open up" the habitat, but I'm never going to have a back seat.

I would not be comfortable with people in the back of the Jeep after modifying it how I plan to.
I plan to move the "horizontal" bar right to the back of the hard top, and change the side bars to continue back at roof height, then go vertically down in the very back corner.
This is sure to weaken the cage right around where the backseat would be.

My hope is that in the event of a roll over, the front two passenger seats are still sufficiently protected by the cage.
The back might crumple, but there will be nobody in there.

-Dan

[Honu]

I would say at least make it an option, which also opens up more products for them the sell. Cabinetry, stovetops, bench/storage, etc...

Plus you could incorporate an additional sleeping area with the open design, by using a sectional sleeping platform.
For those who want the 4 person capacity. It makes for a more versatile product.

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what is that from ? looks pretty nice

[Overland Hadley]

what is that from ? looks pretty nice

Action Camper