Had an interesting visit with Rob and Cari Rowe at Coyote RV-Phoenix campers on Monday morning. My wife and I were in Denver for the day and arranged a factory visit. Phoenix is a small operation, Rob and Cari, and a guy or two helping to build campers. They were delivering a cool 8 footer on a Dodge truck that day....painted jet black. These are aluminum framed campers with fiberglass exterior and an aluminum top. They tend a bit toward what Rob calls 'minimalist' as evidenced by his roots with Four Wheel campers, but his campers can be equiped pretty much however you want. Not only can you option them however you want, but they will build to suit, pretty much anything you want. We shared some of our ideas and asked a ton of questions, and Rob offered solutions and offered interesting options. We are considering a custom build from Coyote RV (Phoenix campers) in lew of a newer Hallmark or Outfitter. I really like those campers, especially the new Cuchera, but I don't think either company will build some of the quirky things we are interested in. For one thing, we'd like the rear overhang to be 8 inches or so lower than the rest of the camper allowing for a step inside, a lower shower floor and lower entry height. We also want a toilet/shower configured as large as possible, Rob says he's built that before. We also want a higher pop up height, because I'm tall, and we want more room in the cabover. All do-able with Coyote RV. We had hoped to visit Hallmark and Outfitter, also in the Denver area, but they are closed on Mondays. Bummer. I know those two makes are vaguely similar in some ways, other than the obvious Outfitter basement design (soon to be offered by Hallmark), after all the owners are brothers who used to build campers together, and are pretty cool, and well built, so we'll take a look at them too. I have to admit though, the idea of drawing up our own camper and having it custom made is a cool idea.