trasharoo improvement/changes thread

[adventureduo]

Been busy lately and haven't had much time on the portal, but no excuse not to answer questions. Sorry for the delay gents.

Stronger stitching where the straps meet the bag. Mine just failed with a single bundle of fire wood in it and disintegrated.

I don't know if i've seen the stitching actually fail. I've seen other parts fail. Buckles from exerting too much force, rips, tears and the like. Our warranty is 1 year, but come by the shop, with your old bag and we'll get you a new one free of charge. This shouldn't of happened to you and for that we apologize. We want you to be happy.

I've only had my bag for a month here on CO and it looks that way too. Unfortunately I don't think theres too much that can be done to fix it. A more expense die would raise the price but after awhile it all starts looking that way. The good news is just because it's faded doesn't make it weaker. It will take a while before it starts to break down. Even if these things had to be replaced yearly their worth it.

We have had a problem with some of the UV reacting with the dye and there's some sort of chemical reaction turning the straps into an almost shredded wheat and failing. We do replace these bags free of charge and they're less than 1% of the bags ever to leave our warehouse. If this has happened to you, PM me with a photo of the straps and i'll get you a new one right away. Of Course sun will eat anything in time, i mean my paniers on my moto, my hi-lift cover... all the same.. but shouldn't happen that fast.

i do love that bag ,i put stuff i cant find a place for ,tire wrench ,skimboard for the boys when on the coast ..but the fj does not have a swing out tire its mounted to the door ,a pain in the but to put on ..if you have a fj or its door mounted tire ,i added 3 washers to the studs to push the tire out just that much so i could get my hand behind to strap it in ..but do feel could the tightening points could be improved ?more like a tie down strap ?i also have added a strap under the tire to keep tension on the bag .....

Usually on FJ Cruisers and JK's we recommend you lengthen the top strap all the way out and buckle the straps from the bottom of the door area as you are correct, there really isn't enough room on the OEM swingout doors.

Perhaps a sleeve that covers the entire length of the strap would be enough to help with strap weathering?

Great idea, i'll look into that. Won't raise the price and will protect the straps longer.

Big bold red letters on the underside of the flap that say "PLACE TRASH IN TRASHBAG". That's my biggest problem with the Trasharoo, people carelessly toss nasty trash in it right on top of the heavy duty trash bag I always put in mine...
I switched to metal hardware about a year ago and couldn't be happier. That said, if I were in a wet climate I would want plastic. I'd say leave it as-is, it's easy enough for the desert dwellers to switch out the plastic for aluminum as needed.

I picked up the metal buckles from: http://www.strapworks.com/Side_Relea...e_p/msrb-a.htm

Great Point Chazz. We opted not to go with metal buckles because it will drive the price of the bag up. We could easily outfit this bag with every high-end version material/grade and be well above $100... we could also make the HD version and for $200. At the end of the day, it's all what someone will spend on a trash bag, and the majority of folks feel our price is right inline, even if they buy a new one every year or two.

Again, we appreciate all the business and i want to stress, We're trying to keep a happy medium for the product. Not too elaborate, not too bulletproof and expensive, but right in the middle. That combined with awesome customer service and a no questions asked replacement policy.... i think we've found a great match.

[TangoBlue]

Dave's word is fact. I had a minor issue I perceived as normal wear and tear but he wouldn't hear of it... and had a new bag in the mail to me.

There is no finer customer service in the industry.

[barlowrs]

Thanks Dave, I will try to swing by one of these days so you can see the bag, it is SHREDDED because after the strap broke, it was drug behind the truck for several miles down the Mojave road, but you can see the initial failure.

The bag has been more than worth it though, and again, to everyone who sees that mine died, dont let that detour you, the bag served me well and was WELLLLLLL worth the money!

Ha-ha, skewered me with facts! Love it! I've obviously not read through the web site. I know Dave diligently follows all of the feedback in this thread. I've yet to figure out how to mount a Trasharoo on my trailer without adding on a spare tire mount

HAHA YAY for me! haha J/K.....hey, if its on your trailer, just hard mount that puppy! you will take the big trash bags out when need be, but the roo can be permanent no?

[HARDTRAILZ]

Customer service is 2nd to none. Problem...they fix it and go above and beyond doing so!

I do like the suggestion on sleeving the straps.

You could offer aluminum buckles for sale on your site for those that are so inclined to upgrade...keeps initial cost the same, but offers what some may feel they need/want.

Thanks for the great product.... Mine did get an interesting use...after my buddy's wedding several out of town guys from the wedding party deposted there rental tux's for me to drop off the next day. Worked great since it easily held everything and kept them out of sight(instead of sitting them next to or on the truck) while I was still able to help the tear down of the wedding reception.

[teotwaki]

HAHA YAY for me! haha J/K.....hey, if its on your trailer, just hard mount that puppy! you will take the big trash bags out when need be, but the roo can be permanent no?

I'm also looking at mounting some "footman loops" on the tailgate door as places to run the straps.

[Ray_G]

So I love the product but didn't like the sag I was getting b/c of the way the Discovery's spare tire carrier just wouldn't let things get tight. Followed this thread, emailed with Dave about the pending production of a horizontal strap, but eventually decided that a fixed buckle solution would work ok.

Sourced some 2" bolt plates from here: http://customtiedowns.com/hooks/bolt-plates/
Thenpicked up some 2" buckles (male/female x2) and triglides from REI.

I only used the existing webbing, after mocking up/measuring 3x/etc I took the plunge and cut the webbing on the trasharoo so that I could use up and down facing interfaces permanently attached to the tire carrier:
Trasharoo Fix _4.JPG
I chose the bolt both bolt plates in at the top b/c it is easier to reach down and grab both buckles from that angle. The duct tape has no purpose other than assuaging my OCD nature that can't stand excess straps since days of 782 gear gone by.
Trasharoo fix_1.jpg
Obviously no weight/staged picture but the reality is the top straps physical length will limit it from sagging now. The bottom straps play less of a role, more to keep it held down and secure.
Trasharoo fix_2.jpg
Trasharoo fix_3.jpg
It's tight to manipulate back there but should do ok. Fairly well protected from elements/UV, and easy enough to replace down the road if need be. Since I'm not in an environment where I can leave it on day in/day out, the actual usage is subject to my ability to escape the Washington metro area. Will be interested to see how this turns out. For the most part I use it to store recovery gear like a kinetic rope and such.
r-
Ray

[HARDTRAILZ]

Looks like it works well for ya!

[Fantom]

My Trasharoo has been on the truck for the past year and a couple months, has seen some good trails and abuse. The black material has faded into a dark grey and the stitching around the mounth of it failed after the first 6 months, but after that it has not ripped further and has worked well. The material is starting to feel brittle, the inside material covering has flaked off after about 6 months too. It has served it's purpose though, but I doubt it will last past this wheeling season, and if it fails, I will buy another.
Thanks!

[rajin cajun]

Hi Dave & Yoshi and fellow adventurers

I would happily pay more $$ for an heavy duty version............

[xpdishn]

So I love the product but didn't like the sag I was getting b/c of the way the Discovery's spare tire carrier just wouldn't let things get tight. Followed this thread, emailed with Dave about the pending production of a horizontal strap, but eventually decided that a fixed buckle solution would work ok.

Sourced some 2" bolt plates from here: http://customtiedowns.com/hooks/bolt-plates/
Thenpicked up some 2" buckles (male/female x2) and triglides from REI.

I only used the existing webbing, after mocking up/measuring 3x/etc I took the plunge and cut the webbing on the trasharoo so that I could use up and down facing interfaces permanently attached to the tire carrier:

I chose the bolt both bolt plates in at the top b/c it is easier to reach down and grab both buckles from that angle. The duct tape has no purpose other than assuaging my OCD nature that can't stand excess straps since days of 782 gear gone by.

Obviously no weight/staged picture but the reality is the top straps physical length will limit it from sagging now. The bottom straps play less of a role, more to keep it held down and secure.


It's tight to manipulate back there but should do ok. Fairly well protected from elements/UV, and easy enough to replace down the road if need be. Since I'm not in an environment where I can leave it on day in/day out, the actual usage is subject to my ability to escape the Washington metro area. Will be interested to see how this turns out. For the most part I use it to store recovery gear like a kinetic rope and such.
r-
Ray

Ray, GREAT idea. I, and I think alot of us, have the same issue with the very limited space behind the tire. I'm definitely going to pull the spare and see if it can be done with a FJC. The "new" top strap doesn't really do anything for keeping the Roo up high on the tire.

As for the quality of the Roo, I've a 1st gen bag, it's on my rig 24/7 and I live in the desert. It is in the hot sun for very long periods at a time and I've had no problems with anything failing, nor problems with the UV issue. Yes the fabric and straps are not as supple as new, but still very usable. A great idea, design and execution by Dave and Yoshi. Thanks guys.