Isuzu elf terra 500 get one from Japan

isuzuelffan

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Hi to everyone, I am new here.
By checking a bit the background about the Isuzu Elf camper I found an interesting entry here.
Have a few questions left and wondering if there is somebody driving one already or has experiences mainly in tires, fuel economy, turbo or LPG on that engine aso

Cheers
Chris
 
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BKCowGod

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For those who are curious, I think this is what he's talking about:
1996-Isuzu-ELF-Van-Custom-Terra-500-camper_01.jpg
 

isuzuelffan

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yep, that's the one. the ones exported are all 94 or 96 models and at least here in AUS quite a few dealers got themselves some over and trying to sell.
Two Japanese manufactures and at least the Terra 500 model looks pretty well done inside for me, and it's a solid Isuzu 4x4.
 

isuzuelffan

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is there a source for Isuzu spec sheets which includes that Isuzu 150 (only called in Japan Elf).
Would be interesting to see what 4x4 parts, gearbox and engine block they used
Maybe it's an early NPS with simply smaller pistons?
 
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ptg69

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New to site.
However also interested in an Elf Terra 500. I have sourced a 4X4 manual with hi-low - but would appreciate feedback from anyone who has driven/owned one.
I live in Australia (Tasmania), so parts could be an issue(?)
Any feedback appreciated.
 

isuzuelffan

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hi guys, I got it over a year ago, the one on the photo I believe.

I went through the whole thing, bought it, received in a less good condition (typical rust), complained and got a good refund, repaired and upgraded everything. After all I am pretty happy with the Elf.
There is a lot of info and I think its a good idea to keep most important general stuff here at the beginning of the thread. So I wrote a little report.
Isuzu Elf 150, Terra 500 NHS69E (the S stands for 4x4) 4JG2 motor (3.1 liter no turbo) L.T. Campers in Japan

There are a few obvious pros and cons with the Elf 150.
If you can cope with the cons, you will love the pros. Its like with the Peugeot J9 camper I had, very specific, something for the heart.

pros: especially in a city its very easy to drive, turns nearly on the spot, parking with 5 Meters no problem, doesn't bother others when free camping. Its a solid commercial truck. The interior is solid and good quality, large windows, good insulation against sun and cold, mine came with Truma (3002 I guess) gas heater(no AUS compliance) and 110v under-built generator. There was also a heat and cool air exchanger under the back seat, fed by engine hot water and front air con.

So far I did not had the trouble with parts, Isuzu was very helpful and quick.
The price for vans from Japan is low, I was lucky to get one for 35.000 all inclusive, because of rust, with heavy negotiation I got some bucks back.
*I could had the truck rejected as "not delivered as promised". Import agents are somehow liable and registered. I just mentioned that, because a major fear of buying overseas without even seeing the car, can be nerve wracking.

Cons: the Elf 150 4x4 is a 3.715 ton truck, weights empty 2.8t (shipping papers).
With 100L water, 65L Diesel, AUX *batteries and all other stuff I have, I am around 3.5 tons (public weight bridge).
That is a bit heavy for the engine and suspension, especially considering the short wheel base and short axle.

So, loaded like mine, it takes it's time, bounces a bit and won't go through turns as fast as most others. But with less weight it runs like a normal van.

After the job of an AUS compliance workshop you will have only a two- seater, copper instead of alloy gas pipes, a new stove and fridge (110v and gas needs disconnect), and new tyres, it came on winter tyres.
The boiler was no problem with compliance. The 110v electrics need to be disconnected and replaced by some 240v stuff, RCD, in let socket and 2 power points inside, not a big job.

You have to know, the Elf camper is used in Japan for skiing holidays in the mountains, the 4x4 perfect for that. Even thou the 4x4 appears very tough, has man front diff locks, the Elf is a single wheeler, I recon for the sand more clearance and less top weight would be helpful. But it will get itself out of the mud well with proper tyres.
With my 6.5R16 split rims I am so far left with high way tyres, lacking on profile. But I had no time yet to look for alternative rims and tyres.


I found the camper online on a web page of an import agent, usually getting tuned Jap cars over to AUS. He sits in AUS, has connections in Japan to check and test drive cars and search and buy cars on auctions, which are very popular in Japan. Japan has strict environmental laws, engines have to be renewed before 100t km, therefor lots of cars leave with low km for export. You can google for "import agent japan" or check for Nissan Skyline aso forums.

That agent had a useful cost calculator on his page. For my camper 20.000$ for the dealer, 1500$ for the agent arranging everything, app 7000$ for shipping, stamp duty, harbor costs, delivery aso, payed directly to the shipping company, and 4000$ for the compliance in a Elf certified compliance workshop. All together 34000$.
I got the photos, an auction grade 4 promised, also no nuclear contamination :0)). Delivery took app 3 month, one more than expected; due it's height they collect trucks, before the raise the ferry deck :eek:))

I mentioned the rust before, looked like the Titanic on the ocean ground, but nothing that bad, that it would be major. The Elf's main frame looked ok, crossing frames added for the camper needed some replacement and welding, the front discs needed sanding, all shocks new. The whole under-body got sand blasted and sprayed with epoxy.
My Elf was obviously parked close to the ocean and not moved for years, so I had trouble with the power steering pump (valve got stuck) and the air con fan, both were replaced, all part of me calculation, even thou it took time and nerves.

Important for me was the condition of the diesel (no smoke), transmission, 4x4, and untouched electric. I test drove one with a damaged 4x4 box (the low gear handle didn't stay position) Also saw one with new motor.
These truck are driven by normal folks. It's for instance possible to unintentionally hit the 4x4 button on the dash board and twist the suspension on paved roads. Happened to me and I noticed it by pulling tide into a parking lot! So make sure you get a good one!

So, as I mentioned, I figured there are some different versions of two AUS complied Elf models, the "Terra 500", and the "Out-Back Express", which is more on a Elf 250 base with double tires in the back.
The Out-Back Express are a bit darker inside, kitchen on the side, so back entrance, but then with easy transferable side bench/bed, that add up to the seats/bed.

I found an Elf 150 type with double bunk bed in the back, smaller toilet, kitchen on side, which looked interesting.

For most of those models I found the seats not so practical, they change seating direction (towards driving/table). They are very heavy, little storage underneath and you can't use them while driving any way. I threw mine out, replaced them with alloy frame boxes, table fits in between, to form a bed, adjustable back rests.
I kicked the exchanger out and installed a Truma Compact in-bench air conditioner, which I ordered in Germany online, left tax free Germany, and entered AUS tax free. The Compact takes only app 650Watts (starts on a 1000W generator), the Comfort offered in AUS takes 1000W.

I also installed a water pump, that pulls fresh water out of a jerry can into the 100 liter tank. The water inlet of the Elf sits quite high, much easier with a high throughput 12V pump.
I have 2x Kyocera panels on the roof, and 2x 100AH Victron Energy AUX batteries, bough over Ebay, which can be charged by alternator over a manual relays.
I use an Watch Guard Alarm, which does a good job, sends me SMS to the phone.

I had bad bad experiences with an Waeco CR1080 fridge and recently replaced it with an Engel ST90F, which has better quality although, doesn't run 50 Min an hour on min 4.5A, doesn't rust yet. It just fitted perfectly into the opening. The Engel is a bit bigger.

A 4JB1-T engine serves probably the Isuzu Bighorn (TrooperII) and Mu/Wizard (Rodeo) which is a turbo. Would love to know if, in some time it could replace the 4JG2, and what the exact differences are.

So that's it, happy to answer any questions, love to get more info about alloy rims and wider tyres (mine run with 80 PSI, maximum pressure) an argument for double tyres, Fiamma F1 awning, frame structure.

elffan
 
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isuzuelffan

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I found here several Elfs
http://www.caravancampingsales.com.au/

@PTG
thought you wrote NZ, but it's Tassi. I remember an "open" Gas heater is great to have, when its so cold. I used to have that model back in Europe.

It's awesome to see, which Japanese models they let into NZ.
I met a young lady over here, living with hear one year old in a Hilux 3 liter diesel 4x4 with an huge camper on it's back, a fixed bed on top of the cabin, and
best is, they had a little popup above that bed. http://www.motorhomesforsale.co.nz/88_hilux_4x4_camper.htm

On this page here they have some models on a Hilux base
http://www.motorhomesforsale.co.nz/campervans_for_sale.htm

here is my dealer in Japan
http://www.braveautointernational.jp/vehicle/457/toyota-hilux-2-8l-diesel-4wd-camper.html

before I got the Elf I was driving a Hilux 2.7 dual fuel, Matilda Clancy camper for 3 years
 

isuzuelffan

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after a while now I discovered a few more things about my Elf.
I love it!
One thing that has been an issue was the very soft suspension in the front. I replaced the shockies, no change. It also pulled a bit to the left. Now the wheel Alligment guys figured out how to adjust the steering and also simply screwed and tided up the special twisting bars in the front. The Elf came up and is now excellent to steer. It doesn't has springs, more like a VW T2 rear suspension.
The motor is used in the Holden Jackaroo and Isuzu Mu, there is a turbo version which might fit, but Isuzu Phillipines and Malaysia haven't replied my request yet.
I got a Chinese EBay polishing machine, which did an awesome job on the fiber body.

cheers
Chris
 

Hoppy

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We have bought one and are not happy, a whole lot of money for an overseas purchase thinking we were saving money as they advertise, turned out buying one form Oz would have been cheaper and had warranty!
 

isuzuelffan

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hi, sorry to hear. Things have changed since I wrote it, around 1.5 years ago.

Same with my Elf. when I bought it, the Elf's were offered for 54000$ on ebay. I saw one recently for the money, which was the estimation for mine, getting it from Japan, 34000$.
I was checking the yacht market for several month, inspected a few 40' sail boats. In Australia we are in a recession, nobody is buying anything at the moment, a perfect buyers market!
Boats, Houses, and yes, campers, too.
So I would definitively look first on the Australian market at the moment, sellers are really desperate to sell
 

isuzuelffan

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hi all, just got in mind that if you decide to import an Elf it would be wise to find and talk to the very few compliance workshops in Australia. They are licened for those few models and know them in and out due their own imports.
They will receive your truck right from the harbour and have different workshops to do the tasks, like gas change and installation, electrical change, tyres or like in my case also sand blasting and epoxy spraying.
Now because the compliance workshop offers the compleat "getting on the road" in one price, they tent to do everything as cheap and quick as possible. Now it is on you do interfere and ask with every job, how they want to do it. For example you might want all gas valves next to the bottles, that means the workshop has to run 3 gas pipes instead of one, that splits up somewhere. You might also want the power inlet at the back where the old one is; the electrician would install it at the side, where it's closer to the electric panel and RCD. If your fridge is 3 way AND 12V compressor, like mine was, you might want to keep it, so they only have to disconnect gas and 110V.
They won't connect the lovely Trumatic S3002 gas heater, because it has no compliance here. That heater is safe and standard all over the world. I just connected mine. Because all newly installed copper pipes run at first underneath the truck, it was easy and safe to connect there (10mm) and to bring the 8 mm pipe to the heater, where at the connection point potential leaking gas can run out through an opening in the floor.
My battery is flat. I bought a used red Optima AGM through eBay 2years ago, used it in the Matilda Hilux and now 1.5 years on a 3.1 liter Diesel. I am not sure how old it is but I just bought a new one on eBay for $249. Battery World tested a new yellow one for me, which has less CCA than the red one (listed with 800CCA) and still showed 1000CCA at the shop!
That are good batteries for the money.

here is a photo showing the Trumatic S3002
6e9ete2u.jpg
 
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