where are the Porsche cayenne expo builds?

[Viggen]

If I were going down this route, and Im saying this not because Im a reformed Dubber or anything but I would go with the Touareg. Solid powerplants, great all weather abilities, actually very good offroad, seals that keep everything out, good fording depths, good in the mud (like anything, dependent upon tires), and actually designed to be off road capable (unlike the Porsche twin). I would get my hands on one without the air suspension (or swap it out with adjustable coil overs or the stock steel springs) and start working on fabbing everything else up.







You can get a full belly skid system and a winch mount for behind the front bumper. 95% of the stuff posted on this site can be done by a smart driver in a TReg.

Oh, and dont forget the painters mask (something only a Dubber would laugh at).

[GSRON]

Service records!!!!!!!

Proper service by the book is important on all vehicles. On Euro cars it's critical. As a 20 year Euro Car tech I insist my customers get service records when buying anything from Europe. Esp if it comes from Germany.......

[SRN]

I'd second the Toureg. All around a more capable starting point than the Cayenne, and still off the wall enough that it should satisfy your desire to not be main stream.

[jluck]

my research yields that the frame,suspension and running gear are same or extremely closely related except the cayenne has a real rear locker option. and I have read quite a lot of good reviews (off road related) on the cayenne. not to say it's alot better than the VW but I bet its just as good.
Does the toureag have rear locker option of aftermarket availability?

[GroupSe7en]

I'm in a similar situation...

Our mission statement is: thousands of miles of highway and then hundreds of miles of nasty gravel washboard. No 'wheeling' involved. We need something that can cruise the black slab with minimum driver input and then suck up the bumps of bad gravel without shaking everything to pieces...

Considering either a Toureg or a Cayenne or an ML 500 (of 55 AMG)

Keep talking guys - this is helpful to me too!

Cheers,
Mark

[GSRON]

Just a heads up on the Cayenne....... Not meant to be a Cayenne bash. Just some info the shoppers might find usefull in making a decision....

I have a (maintained by the book) 04 turbo in the shop that needs/needed a water pump and t-stat. 9+ hrs ("book" time, actual time is closer to 12 hrs) later and a pile of cheap-*** plastic breather hoses and cooling system parts that were found to either be rotted or broken before any one touched it and the car is going back together.

Oh yeah, the starter is under the intake manifold along with the t-stat and cooling hoses.

Heaven help you if you ever have a problem out in the boonies with one of these things. Someone at Porsche should be fired and/or flogged........

YMMV RON

PS did I mention this car has only 52,000 miles on it???? Left the dealership in 04 for about $132K it's worth low to mid $20's today..... Now I know why. It goes w/o saying the original owner is a bit disgusted with the thing and wandered off muttering about not buying another one if it would save his life..

[TRegasaurus]

The early peppers and touaregs were problematic. I have a T2 and except for a minor moonroof leak, have been trouble free. I've taken some very tough trails on a stock steel spring V6 (I've since upgraded the tires) and found it very capable.
Now for the disapointments.
Those cool pics above were an option 7 years ago and are not available now.
Typical steel or aluminum skid plate (if you can find someone to make one for you) will cost you 5X what others pay.
No after market rear or front bumper.
No after market rock sliders (except Porche)
No lift kits.
That's the reason VW has abandoned the Touareg's offroad capability in favor of a grocery getter.
As capable as the Treg is offroad, there just isn't any aftermarket demand.

For the record, the tow rings are fully snatch rated at all four corners.

[GroupSe7en]

Decided to pull the trigger on an '03 pepper 'S'.
About 60k on the clock.

I'll post pics when I get a build going!

Cheers,
Mark

[jluck]

Just a heads up on the Cayenne....... Not meant to be a Cayenne bash. Just some info the shoppers might find usefull in making a decision....

I have a (maintained by the book) 04 turbo in the shop that needs/needed a water pump and t-stat. 9+ hrs ("book" time, actual time is closer to 12 hrs) later and a pile of cheap-*** plastic breather hoses and cooling system parts that were found to either be rotted or broken before any one touched it and the car is going back together.

Oh yeah, the starter is under the intake manifold along with the t-stat and cooling hoses.

Heaven help you if you ever have a problem out in the boonies with one of these things. Someone at Porsche should be fired and/or flogged........

YMMV RON

PS did I mention this car has only 52,000 miles on it???? Left the dealership in 04 for about $132K it's worth low to mid $20's today..... Now I know why. It goes w/o saying the original owner is a bit disgusted with the thing and wandered off muttering about not buying another one if it would save his life..

thanks for the straight talk.I have dealt with other German repair bills and certain parts of my body still hurt. with that said.....will you sell your turbo for "low to mid 20's?". and the goofy engineering seems to be through out the manufactures these days, rig stops-call rocket scientists I guess. I think I would be in the same boat with the g500.

[jluck]

Decided to pull the trigger on an '03 pepper 'S'.
About 60k on the clock.

I'll post pics when I get a build going!

Cheers,
Mark

will be waiting......