Sony Cyber-shot DSC-HX100V, anyone have one?

[FJR Colorado]

PS, here is a link to two programs boxed as one I believe.
10 GB download
Adobe Photoshop Elements 10 & Adobe Premiere Elements 10

On sale for half price, so I may get it.

That is a great deal. If you buy it, definitely have them ship you the boxed set. The download would be a bear, it's always great to have the discs in case you need to re-load it, and Adobe typically enables you to load it on multiple computers.

Just like PhotoShop, Premiere has a bit of a learning curve. Once you get the hang of it, you will not look back at MovieMaker. I work in TV and have a background in post-production so it was a little easier for me. Take a local class if you can find one.

[Lost Canadian]

Thanks, checking it out now.
I see it is 12 megapixel, the Sony was 16 I was looking at.
Which do you feel is a better camera between the two as in picture/video quality?
I most always shoot too on the Auto Program mode instead of trying to manually adjust the camera.

Sorry Corey, spelled your name wrong in my previous post. Anyway, honestly if I was designing point and shoot cameras with small sensors I'd be capping the resolution at 6-8 megapixel. On cameras like these, nice fat photosites would offer a lot more benefit, but unfortunately most consumers typically only know megapixels so manufacturers use these huge megapixels numbers more as a marketing tool at the expense of performance. 16 is excessive on cameras with small sensors like these IMO. Also if you look at any of the top tier point and shoots like the Canon G12 or Nikon P7100 you'll notice that they capped resolution at 10 megapixels because pro's and enthusiasts know that more isn't always better. Another example is Nikon's $5000 D3s, it's only 12 megapixels but nothing even comes close to it in terms of low light noise performance because it has big fat photosites on that full frame sensor.

With respects to which is better, I can't honestly say because the Fuji isn't out yet. If the performance of the Fuji X10 is any indication of what we can expect from the X-S1 though, I'd say it will be no contest. The X10's sensor, which the X-S1 shares, performs superbly.

[Corey]

That is a great deal. If you buy it, definitely have them ship you the boxed set. The download would be a bear, it's always great to have the discs in case you need to re-load it, and Adobe typically enables you to load it on multiple computers.

Just like PhotoShop, Premiere has a bit of a learning curve. Once you get the hang of it, you will not look back at MovieMaker. I work in TV and have a background in post-production so it was a little easier for me. Take a local class if you can find one.

Thanks, just placed my order.
It will arrive next Friday.

I will try shooting a few vids with my GoPro and see if I can stitch them together with the software, and add titles, fades between pics added, ect...
Pretty much what I use to do with Movie Maker with the AVI file my current Sony digital outputs to.

Sorry Corey, spelled your name wrong in my previous post. Anyway, honestly if I was designing point and shoot cameras with small sensors I'd be capping the resolution at 6-8 megapixel. On cameras like these, nice fat photosites would offer a lot more benefit, but unfortunately most consumers typically only know megapixels so manufacturers use these huge megapixels numbers more as a marketing tool at the expense of performance. 16 is excessive on cameras with small sensors like these IMO. Also if you look at any of the top tier point and shoots like the Canon G12 or Nikon P7100 you'll notice that they capped resolution at 10 megapixels because pro's and enthusiasts know that more isn't always better. Another example is Nikon's $5000 D3s, it's only 12 megapixels but nothing even comes close to it in terms of low light noise performance because it has big fat photosites on that full frame sensor.

With respects to which is better, I can't honestly say because the Fuji isn't out yet. If the performance of the Fuji X10 is any indication of what we can expect from the X-S1 though, I'd say it will be no contest. The X10's sensor, which the X-S1 shares, performs superbly.

No problemo on the name, happens all the time

Thanks for the tips on the megapixels.
Most folk's think that bigger is always better, but I guess not in this case.
I am going to see if I can find a release date for the Fuji when I get time, and I am looking forward to reviews of it.
It would be nice to get it before Christmas.

[mhiscox]

I have the Sony. The DP Review test is pretty much spot on, though I think they dinged it a little hard for the slow operation. I'm not sure that if they hadn't make a big deal about how slow it is, you wouldn't think it all that bad for Average Joe use.

The zoom range is obviously the reason to get it . . . there are very few shots you can't get usefully framed with that lens. But the electronic viewfinder is also a principal feature. Given that this is a camera that will get lots of bright sunny day use, the viewfinder is a big plus for helping you see what you're doing.

All in all, perhaps not a camera to make you all warm and gushy about it's excellence, but it's a nice tool for the money and does what you need it to do, along with a bunch of other tricks you may never get to.

[Corey]

Thanks Mike, I read about the slowness too, but I do not think anyone but a professional would ***** about it.
I think for the average user such as myself it would be fine if I went with the Sony.

[Corey]

Found two more links on the camera.
http://www.fujifilm.com/products/dig...fujifilm_x_s1/
http://www.digphoto.org/content/fuji...erzoom/7179743



It comes to the UK in February for around $1.1K or so.
This is three times almost the money for the Sony I was looking at.

PS, I could not click on reply to thread, I had to use the Quick Reply box.
Clicking the regular Reply to thread activated it.

[Lost Canadian]

Fuji Canada announced their price at $799. Not quite a grand but still pricey compared to the Sony, Panasonic, or Canon.

[Corey]

$800 I could live with since the quality is better than the Sony.
Maybe it will come down more once it hits the US.
Will have to keep an eye on Amazon and Best Buy for it.

[JamesDowning]

If you can get your hands on a few, that's the best way to know what fits you right. Kinda like a gun, you gotta at least hold it before you buy to know it's right for you.

I just went through a similar quandary when I was buying a DSLR. I had looked at Cannons and Nikons, but the Sony I got just felt better to me. You may find something different in your search, but I think the key is getting your hands on them and going through the menus, use the buttons, etc.

I agree that the megapixels shouldn't play too much into your decision. The effective pixels are not that different between 12 and 16 MP. See: http://www.design215.com/toolbox/megapixels.php

[Corey]

Looking again, and after reading the Cannon s100 thread in here earlier, I went to Amazon and was reading about it, and someone posted there this new Sony.
Sony NEX-5N 16.1 MP Compact Interchangeable Lens Touchscreen Camera with 18-55mm Lens (Black)
Interchangeable lenses, non DSLR, and 16.1 megapixels.

There is a video at the URL above too under the thumbnails for the camera.

Looks to be a good camera.