Superduty V10 vs 6.0

[RocKrawler]

The only true fix for the 6.0 is a cummins swap. That solves the entirety of the issues on 2003-2007 diesel super dutys.

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[Mountainhound]

All the hate for the 6.0l how many of you actually owned one? I had an 04 it burnt on me this past febuary with 135k miles and I was never nice to that beast. I loved that truck and if the right one came along I wouldn't hesitate to get another. I loved that truck it was a true work horse.

[Buliwyf]

All the hate for the 6.0l how many of you actually owned one? I had an 04 it burnt on me this past febuary with 135k miles and I was never nice to that beast. I loved that truck and if the right one came along I wouldn't hesitate to get another. I loved that truck it was a true work horse.

I had one, so did a friend of mine I used to work with. Epicly excellent engine when it worked. You just had to be mindful how hard you were pushing it. Going up a mountain at 80mph pulling 11,000 pounds, in 90 degree heat, it'll overheat. But I just back off to normal truck speeds and she'd cool off quick.

Mine had a failed egr, puked out it's coolant. They fixed that. Then it drank all of it's coolant, overheated, warped a head.

My friends 6.0 had no power. The turbo failed.

I blame Internation Harvester for ruining one of the best truck designs ever made.

[adi]

I'm currently weighing the options for an Econoline, and keep bouncing back and forth between the V10, 7.3, and 6.0.

Coming from a 93 Land Cruiser, I think the V10 would be leaps and bounds better, but my long term plans include interior heating, and would prefer a diesel heater, which means a diesel engine to keep only one type of liquid fuel around (possibly have propane for other things). It would also tow every once in a while, however with a full interior it would be heavily loaded the majority of the time anyways.

Since my budget is low, I'm leaning toward the 7.3 even though it is not intercooled on the Econoline vans. I know diesels overall cost a bit more in preventative and normal maintenance, but I think it would be worth it for a long term vehicle.

If I had an extra $5-10k, I would swing for the 6.0, upgrade the EGR (or delete), get head studs, and add filters for everything when I purchased it, however if it ever did have issues, the emergency cost of repair is the main source of scaring me off of the 6.0. For the most part I think it is an amazing engine, just hamstrung by horrible EPA mandated, quick to market emissions gear.

[RocKrawler]

All the hate for the 6.0l how many of you actually owned one? I had an 04 it burnt on me this past febuary with 135k miles and I was never nice to that beast. I loved that truck and if the right one came along I wouldn't hesitate to get another. I loved that truck it was a true work horse.

Being in the industry I can tell you that through my contacts with diesel shops they tell me consistently that they make their living on the 6.0 ford diesel engines, that if you can't afford a couple thousand a year in repairs and maintenance alone you should look into a v10 or 7.3, and the owner of one shop says if he didn't do it for a living he would never own a 6.0. That's coming from professionals in the diesel field that know much more than I or most people do.

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[Buliwyf]

Even without all the lame emmisions controls, I'd still avoid the 6.0L. IH put out a rubbish engine. There are no excuses for the amount of failures with that engine. If you're after an Econoline, stick to the 4.6, 5.4, 7.3L engines.

My love for Ford diesels started with the 1998 F350. And ended with the 7.3L. The 2005 diesel should have been the greatest truck ever, what a disappointment. The 6.0's in my area sell for less than the 5.4's. The 6.8's have premium prices in the used market. Just like it's hard to find used Dodge diesels, it's hard to find 6.8L Fords.

Even now in 2011, Ford still hasn't realized that a messy complex engine is not the way to go. I've allways believed that a good engine looks like a good engine. As if engineers that designed that engine cared so much that they decided to make a nice clean simple good looking engine, not a mess that looks like a prop from the movie Aliens. Even the simplest repairs require removing the cab, and even with the cab off it's still a hard engine to repair. I know, I know, diesels shouldn't need that much TLC past filters and fluids that are easy to reach. But Murphys law still applies. If you bury a component in a hard to reach place, and think it's ok because that component should never need replaced.......guess who's going to fail first.

If you opened the hood and dumped a gallon of water on the top of the engine, with all that clutter, would the ground under the truck even get wet at all? Sorry, but I can't pay a premium for an engine that appears to be designed as messy as the cables behind my homes component stereo.

Look at the Cummins QSX, CSX, and what ever theyt call the dodge engine now. Nice clean installs. I can actually reach the manifold and have plenty of room to drill and tap for a pre-turbo EGT sensor.

[NothingClever]

Now I'm in the 7.3 PS versus V10 vs. 6.0L quandary.

These threads don't help...they only make the obsession over options more intense.

Guess I'll take a month's worth of sandwhiches and go to the garage since my wife will find out sooner or later I'm in the hunt for another truck.

[76hauler]

I love my V10. I would recomend one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipppIts1I6Q

[john101477]

All the hate for the 6.0l how many of you actually owned one? I had an 04 it burnt on me this past febuary with 135k miles and I was never nice to that beast. I loved that truck and if the right one came along I wouldn't hesitate to get another. I loved that truck it was a true work horse.

That would be me... 60,000 miles and it is garbage...

[oldestof11]

My brother owned a 7.3L and now owns a 6.0L. Loved, loved, loved the 7.3L but had to sell it do to financial reasons. Bought a 6.0L just recently. Nothing wrong, OASIS reports came back clean. He is doing a RCD delete kit though. The 6.0L is light years ahead in ride, quality, power but has its major weak points.

Just an FYI, the biggest reason of the Ford 6.0L is too small of an EGR cooler and tuning. In fact, the 5.9L in the bigger Ford (650/750) is having reliability issues. Why? Ford HAD to do the injector mapping. That is why you see most of them with Cats, because Ford can map HEUI's better.