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    Default Anybody regret trailer smaller than 4x6 Any Positive Feedback for the Smaller Trailer

    We have a 2012 JK 2dr Jeep, so that is why the towing capacity is limited. The main things we want is a porta pottie with enclosure, tent, and cooler. (Would like to add RTT at end of the road but not required.)

    I'm looking for any feed back positive or negative on a 4x6 or smaller expedition trailer?
    When I say 4x6, I mean box size. I plan on lengthening the tongue as required for better tracking.
    My needs are as follows:
    Total tow weight must be under 2000lbs (Goal is 1300lbs)
    Full Size Tires (I would get the correct adapters and/or lift to match our Jeep)
    Needs to support me and the wife (2 people max) for weekend escapes, no longer than 2 days!
    Not sure if I would need a 2500lb or is a 3500lb axle overkill?

    I keep seeing some 4x4 trailers, but I think that is pushing the limits on being able to carry everything.

    Thanks,
    Ryan

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    so the trailer limit is 2klbs, and is so low because of the very short wheel base of the jeep. Because of the weight distribution on the vehicle, combined with the very short wheel base, putting heavy loads on the hitch means your front bumper is being lifted, which is dangerous. SO dimensions aren't as important as much as the distribution on the trailer. We're on this forum, so the M416 and their Canadian counterparts are so popular. If you can find one, great. If not you want to use that as a base for your design.

    So we're back to your original post. The M416 is a 4x6 design! It also has a 3500lb axle. It's going offroad, it could benefit from the extra strength, no sense in having a busted axle down the road. 4x6 is what you want, and you won't regret it. Any bigger and you're risking safety

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbone1004 View Post
    so the trailer limit is 2klbs, and is so low because of the very short wheel base of the jeep. Because of the weight distribution on the vehicle, combined with the very short wheel base, putting heavy loads on the hitch means your front bumper is being lifted, which is dangerous. SO dimensions aren't as important as much as the distribution on the trailer. We're on this forum, so the M416 and their Canadian counterparts are so popular. If you can find one, great. If not you want to use that as a base for your design.

    So we're back to your original post. The M416 is a 4x6 design! It also has a 3500lb axle. It's going offroad, it could benefit from the extra strength, no sense in having a busted axle down the road. 4x6 is what you want, and you won't regret it. Any bigger and you're risking safety
    I have a 4dr. JK...and stumbled onto a old Bantam trailer, very sim to a M416. Box is nominally 4x6. Tows like a dream...but the OEM short hitch length keeps you on your toes when backing up. I would not want any less of a box size. Think "outside the box"...beyond camping: I've used the Bantam to haul roofing/building supplies, motorcycles and other junk. Tailgate down 8' loads properly distributed are fine. With proper planning...a whole lot of camping gear and stuff will fit into a 4x6 box...and some room to spare. Also the general design all fits together nice....carrying weight limits, axle cap, wheel cap, tire loading and all the rest "fit" the jeep fine. I would not want a bigger trailer, nor a smaller one (based on use by a jeep type vehicle)....it's just about perfect.

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    I will try to post pictures of my 4x6 tomorrow, but it was specifically built to be towed by a Wrangler and is perfectly balanced.

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    Thanks for all the info guys! I'm thinking I can get by with a 4 foot wide by 4-5 foot long trailer with 2 foot high sides. I really want to keep it light as possible.

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    Heck, this baby is less than 4x6! You can stack your crap (pun intended) and roll anywhere. The boss will love you. Add a Thule Rack and she'll sport an RTT with style.
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    Custom built or factory made?
    I would hunt for a M416 too!
    Craigslist and the forum are your friends.
    Here are some pictures from the forum.
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    I have larger tires on my trailer too. I was told a min of 3500# axle, not for the weight but because of the larger tire. Probably why the 416 has the same, Good luck with your build.

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    Thanks for the info, I was not planning on getting anything bigger than a 4x6. I've been coming across 4x4 trailers, but I'm thinking it would be to small.

    I was under the impression that those M416s when loaded were near 1500 - 2000lbs, that was why I was shying away from them.

    I honestly can not justify paying for an aftermarket one.

    Basically, I'm looking for a utility trailer that I can build upon.

    Thanks,
    Ryan

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    loaded they can be close to 2klbs, but again, your jeep is limited to that weight because of the balance factor, not because of the drivetrain. Empty they weight 670lbs, with 130 on the tongue. That's good. Fully loaded to capacity, they are supposed to be 1200lbs *1200 offroad, much more onroad which is why you see the high weights* with 150lbs on the tongue. That's not going to upset your jeep at all as far as tongue weight. 150lbs is nothing.

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