School me on GU / Y61 Patrols

[RMP&O]

Spain is also a good country to search in Europe but from what I have seen the 2.8TD and 3L diesels dominate those countries.

Dutch Patrols? Nearly 400 listings.

http://suchen.mobile.de/auto/nissan....nt1.modelId=25

Japanese sites

http://www.tradecarview.com/used_car...d=1&fd=Nissan+

http://exchange.goo-net.com/

Colombia, South America sites

http://listado.tucarro.com.co/carros/nissan/patrol/

http://www.micarro24.com/buscar/resu...ties%5D%5B%5D=

New Zealand site

http://www.trademe.co.nz/

Some sites searching Safari is all that works, others both searching Patrol and Safari works. It simply depends what country you are searching in.

There was another Northern European country I was searching in once. The website I was on had hundreds of Patrols listed, nearly everyone was a high roof, including SWB and Y61s. However, it seemed there was a tax law in that country that classified the high roofs as "vans" and reduced importation tax if the trucks were high roofs or something along those lines. It also appeared the majority of the high roofs were done in house in that country yet they were for the most part all very nicely done. If I find the website again I will post it but right now I seem to have lost the url.

Also buy a parts book if you want to learn a lot before buying & importing. Any parts book from the Middle East is good since the trucks are LHD and they got pretty much every version of the Patrol. TD42 12v JDM spec Safaris included. They show all models, options, axles offered, engines offered and so forth. I myself have an Aussie Y60 parts book sitting on the book shelf in mint condition, paid about $75 for it on Ebay.

[jpvm]

In Europe all Y61 Patrols were RD28 (2.8 diesel ... read its pretty annemic engine for a 2.5 Ton heavy off roader) equipped (up to 1998) and then they changed to ZD30DDTi (3.0 Turbodiesel, that had many broken block problems in the 1st production years), they never got the TD42T engine, that one was for Australia and Southeastern Asia countries. In Chile we only received the gasoline Y61s (TB45E and TB48DE). In Spain, Portugal, France m Germany m UK, Poland, et. there are lots of Y61...

[reece146]

In Europe all Y61 Patrols were RD28 (2.8 diesel ... read its pretty annemic engine for a 2.5 Ton heavy off roader) equipped (up to 1998) and then they changed to ZD30DDTi (3.0 Turbodiesel, that had many broken block problems in the 1st production years), they never got the TD42T engine, that one was for Australia and Southeastern Asia countries. In Chile we only received the gasoline Y61s (TB45E and TB48DE). In Spain, Portugal, France m Germany m UK, Poland, et. there are lots of Y61...

Ugh, not what I wanted to hear.

I really don't want a Y60. I have enough 'wheelin' rigs (see sig) and the Y60 is too "80s" for my tastes at this point. I loved them when I was in Germany but that was over a decade ago.

I want a modernish, turnkey, workhorse touring machine with indestructible axles and a drivetrain I don't have to worry about. I'd consider the gas/petrol engine over the four cylinder diesel at this point.

[jdlsantos]

If you want run on road like a sedan and wheeling off road like a tank, go for the Y61, preferable TD4.2, my only complain is the semi-flotant rear axle. Now the big deal is to bring it to North America.

Ugh, not what I wanted to hear.

I really don't want a Y60. I have enough 'wheelin' rigs (see sig) and the Y60 is too "80s" for my tastes at this point. I loved them when I was in Germany but that was over a decade ago.

I want a modernish, turnkey, workhorse touring machine with indestructible axles and a drivetrain I don't have to worry about. I'd consider the gas/petrol engine over the four cylinder diesel at this point.

[portal pat]

The Y60 (GQ) is primitive compared to the Y61(GU). The Y61 is also stronger still in the drivetrain (read bulletproof), much better interior and the turboed, intercooled 4.2 is the best engine by far. The amount of aftermarket gear available out of Australia for these trucks is staggering. Not difficult to build a world class off road weapon with bought bits. Yes, they are that good. The semi-floating rear is not an issue. They do not give trouble.

[jfarsang]

The Y60 (GQ) is primitive compared to the Y61(GU). The Y61 is also stronger still in the drivetrain (read bulletproof), much better interior and the turboed, intercooled 4.2 is the best engine by far. The amount of aftermarket gear available out of Australia for these trucks is staggering. Not difficult to build a world class off road weapon with bought bits. Yes, they are that good. The semi-floating rear is not an issue. They do not give trouble.

That depends on which model you get.

I have a 95 JDM Safari with a GU TD42T engine/internals and the interior has major factory upgrades from my previous 91 Patrol GQ.

Between my TD42T 95 GQ and the TD42Ti 09 GU I drove for a month in the UK, the interior comfort, noise and engine power is almost matched. My downsides for the Y60 was that it did not come in a high roof model and that it was physically larger and heavier than the GQ with the same power plus it comes with dual batteries and a 24volt starter/glow plugs for those cool Canadian winters.

Something to think about. You guys in Australia didn't get the 95/96 Nissan Safari GQ TD42T's Kingsroad models from Japan. They are a massive upgrade over the prior GQ models.

With that said, my lady at the time preferred the Y61 however she wouldn't drive it because of the size compared to the GQ. Not much bigger but seems that way from the driver's seat to some people I guess.

[Shanfari]

You may consider our GCC spec models, especially importing from Dubai, UAE.

My LHD Y60 Patrol:

[ravscin]

Hey guys - reece146 has just repeated: he only consider Y61 so all argumentation why GQ is better (it certainly is) is pointless.

If U need info about EU market for GU here You are:
starting from 1999 You may find Y61 in all over Europe. Unfortunately 95% of all are sold with "hand grenade" ZD30 engine - be aware of this 4cyl aluminium crap.

rest 5% were sold in 95% with RD28 engine - 6cyl in line aluminium block and quite civilized manual gear-box. Those motors we call "humpbacked" due to its cam-shift cover shape. OBS - those engines are much more reliable then GQ 2,8 - famous of their "over-heat" behavior. True is that if You find healthy vehicle and will keep it clean with cooling system - You will be happy. Power is not that lower then TD42 - about 110HP (remember they are long millage on clocks)

So - GU with no turbo engines here in EU are like 5% of 5% of every sold unit Now - You need to find TD42T - good luck!!! they are like 5% of previous 5% of 5%

Still are possible to find. I have 3 of those in my garage.

First of all Switzerland - they could always afford damn expensive GU TD42T intercooled. Secondly Swiss is out of EU so also were not so obliged about eco pollution crazy taxes - they shut down many hard to kill, old style engines out of European market. Patrols in Europe have huge millage like 200-300 t miles - but not to worry, 4,2 diesels are cool to run till 1 million km before first repair. REMEMBER: 4,2 nissan diesels are pure iron blocks, timing-gear-distribution is run by pinions - You never change anything but oil - BRILLIANT.

Second market here (LHD) are nordic countries- especially Finland. What makes thing better - those cars have lower rust waste. driving most winter months in heavy snow conditions they do not use salt so much (waste of time and money) so people drive on snowy roads. Cars are healthier due to lack of salt. Important to remember: TD42 engines (TD42T as well) are fitted to heavier g-boxes. And this g-box have PTO revision in every unit. Finish military law says that every 4x4 heavy vehicle (no matter Toyota, LR, or Nissan) in private hands is to be registered as operational ready for military use..., and should be equipped with PTO at least (not always winch) to be ready to use as generators, compressors, etc. That is why Finish GU models are quite many with TD42. They also are to be found in Sweden and Norway in this rare configuration.

And now: most interesting. There is very strong TD42 market in UK. Really many of them are easy to get for reasonable price. Problem is they are still in XIX century with this crazy RHD. (forgive me this rudeness) Anyway, many turboed and non tubro 4,2 there both GU and GQ. In Poland thousands of Patrols were privately imported from all EU, as well many from UK. LHD conversion here costs app 1,3 - 1,5 t$. Both of my patrols are converted as well.

Rest of European countries are poor with 4,2 GU patrols. Of course You may find something but this would be mostly some re-imported from middle-east or Japan/Philippines.

If I were in Your shoes I'd talk with Philippines importing specialist in Your area. Do not care about turbo!!! As someone said already - they are many professionally prepared turbo-kits on market and TD42 engines are designed to get turbo in any moment. Aussies are so deep in subject - just to read internet.... Good luck again, let us know how You do about Your search.

[UK4X4]

I had both a 2.8 turbo and a 4.4 manually aspirated in the UK - I never saw a 4.2 turbo though

The 2.8 was fast and tough, the 4.2 was a torque beast but not as fast as the 2.8

when I had the clutch changed on the 4.2 the guy mentioned it was the biggest gear box he had ever seen on a "car"
a favorite of the caravan crowd for towing, most I saw had high milage.

Colombia has all shapes and sizes of patrol , but expencive, all cars are here, a luxery item !

[ravscin]

Do You have 4,8 gasoline Patrols in Colombia too?