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Thread: winding winch line

  1. #11
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    Im sure that Warn is correct by stating that 500lbs of tension is needed on the spool. Its probably the first thing they ask when you
    try to redeem their warranty.
    Also, funny how Warn winch sales arent through the roof anymore. (Sorry Warn Vendors)

    And do the math. When you first start winching you probably pull 5-10 wraps of 500+ tension before the vehicle even budges.
    So why would you do this BEFORE the pull.

    I have a 50/50 Daily Driver/Offroad truck. My winch gets regular use, its not a prop like most.

    Myself and another truck just succeeded in recovering a Mitsubishi 4x4 100ft from the bottom of a cliff in Capitol forest,
    by using a triple line pull via Warn M9500i (wire) and a double pull via Superwinch Terra 4500.
    Also used was 60 ft of chain, 100ft of wire extension, 2-20ft tow straps (anchors), 10 bow shackles, 2 chainsaws and a 12 pack of Alaskan Amber.

    I spooled 80 ft of line completely off my drum. Some sythetic doesnt have a screw at the end like wire or even attach to the drum. You just use a "pinch wrap" on the drum.
    I respooled 6 wraps and maybe 50lbs pressure.

    The other truck with 110ft of wire spooled out with 5 wraps left had no problem, because the following 10 wraps was most likely 500lbs +/- slack weight
    in the system.

    After all said and done. Neither of us respooled our trucks while attached to trees, using 2 people, or lumber.

    Yes I did my best to not make my drum look like a Robins nest but only with minimal tension, while thinking the whole time of the irony, that hours prior I started posting on this silly tread about winch etiquette... thats probably scarying people away from buying or using their winches then doing good.

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    ExpeditionBound You seem like you are completely missing the point. Everyone realizes that when you are using your winch it does not get spooled back up neatly. This thread is about what to do afterwards. My winch looks like a birds nest of line after I use it since I am generally in the drivers seat. When I am home I unspool my line, wash it, let it dry, and neatly respool it on a slight incline. I'm sure you use your winch to do some awesome recoveries on the trail, but that dosent mean you can't come home and straighten it up.

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    cool thanks for all the input guys, i wasnt using any tension really to spool it just pulling tenion with my hands and maybe that was the issue i was having. I dont take time to make it pretty when im out on trails because the last things i want to do after shoveling and winching for a long time is screw with getting the line perfect. When im back home though and the truck is clean and ready for a nother trip id like to straighten everyting out so i dont pinch a bunch of my cable.

  4. #14
    ExpeditionBound Guest
    Ha. Also while winding up winch line dont forget to study the manuals on brake light fluid.

    Dont stress over my ignorance, Ive removed myself from the forum and transitioned to pirate4x4.

    Ta Ta

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExpeditionBound View Post
    Ha. Also while winding up winch line dont forget to study the manuals on brake light fluid.

    Dont stress over my ignorance, Ive removed myself from the forum and transitioned to pirate4x4.

    Ta Ta
    Oh thanks now I understand how much of a bad *** you are. Sorry to question your sweet pirate knowledge.

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    i cant stand pirate, but if it floats your boat then enjoy

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    My Werner Hydralic winch has a roller cable tensioner, it works great and keeps the wire nicly spooled. All it does is put pressure on the wire as it comes in, forcing it to fall in line. Warn has a similar product that you may be able to adapt to your winch, or copy the idea and make something similar:

    http://www.warn.com/industrial/tension_kit.shtml

    RopeTensionKit.jpg

    They work great to help spool the cable in nice and neat.

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    I think ExpeditionBound might just spring for that mod given the large number of near hopeless recoveries he has achieved.

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    DSCN4267.JPGRoller Springs.JPG

    Here is the Roller version on my Werner mid-mount, you can see the powerful springs that hold the roller onto the cable, and how nice it rolls the cable.

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    yea that looks good ill probably just build something like that, thanks
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