HI LIFT AS A WINCH?

[TACODOC]

Just remember the pulling strength/capacity is about 2k lbs IIRC on a Hi-Lift. It has it's uses but doesn't pull much.

[maxingout]

That was an awesome demonstration at the Overland Expo of using the high lift jack to right a vehicle that was turned on it's side. I never saw the high lift used as a winch before that demonstration, and I was impressed what you can accomplish when you have the right gear and know what you are doing. Before I set off on a major overland adventure, I will get some chain and kevlar line to back up my wire winch cable.

[ipgregory]

Just remember the pulling strength/capacity is about 2k lbs IIRC on a Hi-Lift. It has it's uses but doesn't pull much.

Yes they are low but the one we were using is rated to about 4.5k lbs WLL. Test rating is about 7k from memory. Shear pin is likely to go after that. That truck weighs about 5500lbs so we were well within the rating just tipping it back over. Not sure I would like to be trying to get it out of a deep mud pit or up a 60 degree slope though.

That was an awesome demonstration at the Overland Expo of using the high lift jack to right a vehicle that was turned on it's side. I never saw the high lift used as a winch before that demonstration, and I was impressed what you can accomplish when you have the right gear and know what you are doing. Before I set off on a major overland adventure, I will get some chain and kevlar line to back up my wire winch cable.

Glad you enjoyed it Dave. We wanted to show that it can be done but also that it isn't something you want to try 1st if you have options. Frank sweating on the handle and suggesting a winch is the 1st 3 things you should fit to your truck hopefully demonstrated that?

The other thing we wanted to show was that a high-lift and/or a winch alone are useless without additional equipment and the knowledge on how to properly rig and use them.

In the high-lift pull for example there were 6 shackles, 2 x 50’ synthetic winch extensions, a 10’ welded link choke chain, 2 x rope bungs (a stick and a magazine) as well as the high-lift itself with pulling adaptor.

In the 3 point self-recover pull with the winch we did just before the hi-lift we had 5 shackles, 1 x 50’ synthetic winch extension, 2 x snatch blocks and 2 x anchor points (My 90 and the X-Anchor in the demo). If using different anchor points such as buried tires, trees or rocks then additional straps and shackles would be needed.

Hope it was helpful.

Ian

[maxingout]

It was helpful and very worthwhile. In fact, my wife thought it was awesome. Watching you guys demonstrate how it is safely and properly done made our day. If we ever get in trouble with our trucks, we will be much better prepared because of your demonstration. Thanks for doing such a good job.

Recovery gear is only posing gear unless you know how to use it.

[AndrewClarke]

Thought I would revive this and post this up to show that yes, as has been mentioned, a hi-lift can be used as a winch if all else fails or its your only option. This is us demonstrating using one to right a vehicle during the rolled vehicle demo at the Expo over the weekend.

In that staged set up it took us 1-1/2 racks (only 1 re-rig) of a 60" jack to right the truck using a low on frame rig point. Cost of that is a higher load meaning more sweat on the handle but a quicker recovery.

Thanks to Suntinez on the forum for taking the picture as we didn't get chance to take any.

Ian

Umm, what kind of terrible driver would roll their car in a field like that? To drive like that you'd have to be really unsafe, with all those people around.

Plus, speaking of all the people watching, why not just have them pull the car back over without use of the hi-lift? That would have been quicker and safer.

Sorry, I couldn't stop myself

[mongosd2]

Umm, what kind of terrible driver would roll their car in a field like that? To drive like that you'd have to be really unsafe, with all those people around.

Plus, speaking of all the people watching, why not just have them pull the car back over without use of the hi-lift? That would have been quicker and safer.

Sorry, I couldn't stop myself

you'd be amazed what stupid **** people do...

[oryxexpeditions]

Yes they are low but the one we were using is rated to about 4.5k lbs WLL. Test rating is about 7k from memory. Shear pin is likely to go after that. That truck weighs about 5500lbs so we were well within the rating just tipping it back over. Not sure I would like to be trying to get it out of a deep mud pit or up a 60 degree slope though.



Glad you enjoyed it Dave. We wanted to show that it can be done but also that it isn't something you want to try 1st if you have options. Frank sweating on the handle and suggesting a winch is the 1st 3 things you should fit to your truck hopefully demonstrated that?

The other thing we wanted to show was that a high-lift and/or a winch alone are useless without additional equipment and the knowledge on how to properly rig and use them.

In the high-lift pull for example there were 6 shackles, 2 x 50’ synthetic winch extensions, a 10’ welded link choke chain, 2 x rope bungs (a stick and a magazine) as well as the high-lift itself with pulling adaptor.

In the 3 point self-recover pull with the winch we did just before the hi-lift we had 5 shackles, 1 x 50’ synthetic winch extension, 2 x snatch blocks and 2 x anchor points (My 90 and the X-Anchor in the demo). If using different anchor points such as buried tires, trees or rocks then additional straps and shackles would be needed.

Hope it was helpful.

Ian

Anyone have a video of this demo?

David

[mongosd2]

Anyone have a video of this demo?

David

I'm working on it...we were too busy with the demo to shoot it, so I'm contacting folks who were there to get a copy of what they got...

[AndrewClarke]

you'd be amazed what stupid **** people do...

I made my comment as a joke, assuming the vehicle had been rolled on purpose just for the demonstration. Now, I'm starting to wonder...

[rijosho]

I'm working on it...we were too busy with the demo to shoot it, so I'm contacting folks who were there to get a copy of what they got...

Just go to Ian's place in the middle of the night and tip one of his trucks on its side and film his recovery in the AM.