long gun registration papers

[frumpy]

I spilled some gas on mine
















































That's right, Canada no longer has a firearms registry for non-restricted firearms (shotguns/rifles)

[TACODOC]

Nice. Way to go Canada!

Now if Australia and the UK could get back to reality.

[HumphreyBear]

99.999'% of my country are quite happy with the situation as it stands, but thanks for your concern.Humphrey

[TACODOC]

You're the only Aussie I've heard that from. And I've spent considerable time in your country.

[HumphreyBear]

Then I must be wrong, having only been born here and lived across the country for much of my 38 years - please forgive my misunderstanding of my countrymen's thoughts and philosophy...


I'm not saying that you won't find Australians who like firearms. I am one. I like rifles and periodically think about getting (a legal, registered, controlled) one again when I move out of the city next. I'm a pretty good shot, or was before I spent the last decade in front of a computer screen and my eyesight went on me. And I enjoy the challenge of shooting, the control and discipline - legacy of years in the infantry where they taught me pretty thoroughly.


What I am saying is that in that cumulative time in this country I do not know almost any Australians who are opposed to firearms restrictions, who thinks we should have US-styled unfettered access to firearms. And I know many, many Australians. They're out there, I'm sure, but I don't know very many of them at all - to the point that I cannot think of one single person whom I know personally who thinks this way. Maybe with your approach to guns you are more likely to discuss it with people who are pro-gun than anti-gun control. But me being 'the only one' during your considerable time here makes me think you haven't actually discussed it with that many of us because I'd only have to stroll down the street and I'd encounter a vast majority. Your reputation on here is that you are an honourable, stand-up guy - so I am assuming that that comment is not dishonest or deceptive, but that it is hyperbole brought on by your emotional attachment to the subject matter.

I normally ignore the gun banter on here because A) engaging in anti-gun rhetoric is one sure way to get a thread squashed and B) I don't really care what America does in its own backyard, but I really resent seeing uninformed comments about the attitude of people in other countries, hence the response. This point in particular has bugged me since I encountered an NRA member in Half Moon Bay, CA (whilst I was out shooting with a policeman friend, co-incidentally) about 15-odd years ago who tried to convince me that Australians live in fear - "little old ladies won't walk outside their front doors for fear of marauding gangs" - after the government introduced tighter control including the confiscation of semi-automatic weapons except for permit holders. It had to be right - he heard it at an NRA seminar. The fact that I was a pretty good shot, ex-army and in favour of gun control was more than he could compute, but he wouldn't concede that I could possibly be correct because it was outside the range of his view of the world.Humphrey

[Cody1771]

Canada screwed up with the long gun regestry anyways, it accomplished nothing but causing the taxpayers money. whats the point of having a firearm regestered if you are still able to freely lend it out to your friends and family, or can go into a store and buy a rifle over the counter with no wait period. it was an expensive statistic generater is all.

[frumpy]

Canada still requires all firearm owners to be licenced to buy and own firearms. The only difference now is we do not register them and do not have to have papers with our long guns when ever we take them out.

I was out shooting with the ex chief of police for the area a few days ago and he said it was a waste of money. Going into any house you always assume there is a firearm present regardless of what the registry says.

[frumpy]

There is a wait prriod on the initial license. Also, when you buy a gun over the counter it is automativally registered through a dealer/police database. The main issue was the registry did nothing to prevent crime (liberals big arguement for it) and many firearms of hunters and farmers remained unregistered.

Canada screwed up with the long gun regestry anyways, it accomplished nothing but causing the taxpayers money. whats the point of having a firearm regestered if you are still able to freely lend it out to your friends and family, or can go into a store and buy a rifle over the counter with no wait period. it was an expensive statistic generater is all.

[toymaster]

.... The fact that I was a pretty good shot, ex-army and in favour of gun control was more than he could compute, but he wouldn't concede that I could possibly be correct because it was outside the range of his view of the world.Humphrey

Narrow mindedness is not limited to conservatives. Would you mind sharing the government furnished statistics on how much this infringement upon a law-abiding citizen has reduced crime in your country?

[Cody1771]

There is a wait prriod on the initial license. Also, when you buy a gun over the counter it is automativally registered through a dealer/police database. The main issue was the registry did nothing to prevent crime (liberals big arguement for it) and many firearms of hunters and farmers remained unregistered.

yes i do know that considering i have my PAL and RPAL, i was speaking of the actual buying of the gun, which you cant do without a license, most gun stores wont let you even hold a gun without it. and i agree it did nothing to prevent it, you could find unregistered guns on craigslist easy enough.

that being said i am a fan of gun control, being a handgun owner i am quite happy with the fact they are limited to the range. some people just shouldnt own a firearm and ive had run in with said people on 2 occasions.

what im not fan of is knowing my tax dollars are funding things that dont do any good.... but thats a whole other story considering the longgun registry is not the worst offender of that.