I'm pretty sure I'm up for a SHTF scenario.....
I'm pretty sure I'm up for a SHTF scenario.....
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I think you guys need to buy a half track. As for myself, someday I would like to buy a Deuce and half, bob the back axle for an heavy duty 4x4.
May there be a road.
My bug out plan(and I do have a fueled Unimog in the driveway) is to survive in place and make sure everyone on my street is ok (including the a-holes I don't like). I would rather survive as a community with everyone pitching in and contributing skills that they possess. When our power went out a few years ago (the hydro operators in Ohio screwed up and caused a cascade but I digress) the first thing we did was make sure everyone on our street was ok.We did the same thing when a tornado blew through our vacation home (lost power for several days then too). After that we drove to my inlaws and had a nice barbeque. Because we always store our water containers and fuel containers full, nothing was an issue.Our pantry is stocked to overflowing and the freezer is full of meat. A dead freezer will keep meat for a few days if you don't keep opening the damn lid and my trucks have 1kw inverters in them so I can keep the cold on that way. It must be the way my dad brought me up and my military training that makes me want to make sure all of us make it out the other side of a catastrophic event.
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It's not about the truck and it is not about the distance traveled. Get out there with whatever you have, meet people and see things. Push the envelope of your comfort zone and live.
Talking about an enemy invading US Sovereign soil get to the nearest relative or friends house thats out of the city and stay out of the way of our Military. COB's (Civilians on the Battlefield) severely limit the effectiveness of our Military. To think that this is an impossible scenario and not take it into consideration would be foolish. However, it would be wise to go about it properly. Not thinking that it would be like call of duty or something. The first things to go in these situations are very similar to natural disasters. Power, communication, fuel, food, water, and other basic supplies get stopped completely with no one knowing when they are coming back. Your best source of what's going on would be Radio, NOAA, and HAM in particular. If that's jammed you'd better get the hell out of dodge if/while you can. The big difference in a War zone is when things do come back they are severely limited. This is actually an area 3rd world countries have the upper hand. Basically everything they need to survive can be grown and harvested locally. You might could get away with it in a suburb, but in huge city there's not enough natural resources to provide for everyone. Just something to think about.
As for the guy who mentioned that this kinda planning was a reoccurring cycle, I'd have to disagree. I don't think the cycle ever stops it gets passed down the line where I'm from.
In all seriousness though the best advice I've read in here so far was about knowing how to handle the little things like infection, cuts and so forth. If we look back over history for examples of bug out run for the hills situations there are plenty. The recent Nuclear disaster in Japan was 1/10th the size of Chernobyl and people up to what 15 mi had to evacuate. At Chernobyl how many people were told they would never see their homes again? During Hurricane Katrina there were literally buss loads of people who were put on busses and sent to different cities. Not to mention those that came back to find their homes demolished. I've talked to quite a few people that said they just wished they had been better prepared. Some of them just wished they had thought to pack some of their family photo albums, or a special heirloom. They left it thinking it'd be there when they got back.
To sum it all up I've never heard a person say they wished they weren't prepared so well.
Now one must consider yet another SHTF scenario; how to react or respond to a popular uprising of private American citizens?
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I wouldn't worry about Our Military turning on us. I know I wouldn't have followed any such order while I was still in. As for the talking heads I wouldn't say don't pay any attention to them, but understand that they are high paid idiots, and if push comes to shove they will see that Our Military isn't willing to say how high when they say jump in regards to their fellow Americans.
While I don't need to bug out on account of living in the difficult-to-find part of the *** end of nowhere, I developed an interest in expo travel because of my consideration of how I'd bug out.
In most cases, a dual-sport bike is the way to go if you're alone, the older the better (you want a kick-start bike if they can be had). If you have to bring the family, a Ford Bronco/K5 Blazer/IH Scout would be an ideal rig, the older (and consequently less electronic) the better. If you had an older crew-cab truck that too would serve the purpose, especially if you need additional bed space. Doka Unimog or Pinzgauer would also work if you had more people to move.
The BOV concept isn't necessarily to get you to a specific location-in my mind you should go to you BOL when you see warning signs that things are getting bad, not after they've gotten bad. The BOV, in my opinion, is designed to GOOD (get out of dodge) when your bug out location (BOL) is no longer habitable/under attack/etc. It needs to be a platform that is fast (a dual sport bike going sixty is a damn near impossible target) and can go over the worst terrain in your BOL and the area around it. A Ford SVT Raptor might be a good choice for a family living in the desert. If you're in the swamps of Florida, a 15' aluminum-hull boat or a few jet skis might be an equally good choice.
also, all this BOV talk, and i found this today while searching for something else...
.50 cal on the roof and what looks like a m249 on the pass side fender
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