Earthroamer poor customer service

[Liz5264]

Hi
Just an update to say I finally got a reply today which is appreciated.
Liz

[camperman]

Dgurley2000, yes things are improved now. You can see that Ford chassis got a new engine and transmission, camper got a new solar panels, bigger water tank. Before improving things, you have to know problems, thus what part of vehicle need an upgrade.
Just a my 5 cents.

[john278516]

Fantastic, another Earthroamer flame war! It seems like there are two groups of people that post on this forum- Happy Earthroamer owners and Earthroamer haters that have probably never even seen an EarthRoamer! What is it about Earthroamer that draws all of the naysayers out of the woodwork like cockroaches? Envy? Jealousy?

I’ve read through the entire Dick and Pip Diary and yep, they encountered some problems along the way. I suspect that anyone who drives around the world will encounter some problems. It sure looks to me like they had an incredible journey. I think these words from Dick and photos of Dick and Pip speak for themselves:


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When it came to leaving the vehicle for the very last time, Pip found herself shedding a few tears. This vehicle had become our secure adventure machine and had enabled us to see amazing places and meet wonderful people.
For almost three years, on and off, we have driven our Earthroamer across the USA, Canada, England, Wales, Scotland, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Russia, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, Japan and Australia. It has been a fantastic journey with wonderful memories and Pip has taken many photographs to help keep those memories alive. We really enjoyed each other’s company and became a good team sharing the tasks of driving a vehicle around the world.

We now wait to hear that someone has bought our Earthroamer, however Dick says we could head down through South America if the economic climate in the States results in no one buying our Earthroamer!!
Thank you to all our family and friends who have read our web site and taken an interest in our travels, we really appreciate your enthusiasm and support.

Farewell for now from Dick and Pip Smith

Total trip from Denver to Denver, including the ferry drive to Seattle and the Los Angeles to Denver segment is: 45,552 kms

I'm not an Earthroamer owner yet but I will be!!

[Dgurley2000]

Fantastic, another Earthroamer flame war! It seems like there are two groups of people that post on this forum- Happy Earthroamer owners and Earthroamer haters that have probably never even seen an EarthRoamer! What is it about Earthroamer that draws all of the naysayers out of the woodwork like cockroaches? Envy? Jealousy?

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Can only speak for myself..... there are pro and cons to having a large self-contained living space for this type of journey on a modern vehicle that is dependent on electronics for troubleshooting. I appreciated the Smith's candor in talking about the issues they faced as it helps all of us in our decision making process. I also noted they had nice, warm, comfortable living quarters and would invite locals in for tea. Wouldn't call that "hate", "envy", or "jealousy". I would call it "research" - and is the process the PO is going through. Sounds like EarthRoamer may have already improved a lot of what caused trouble for the Smiths.

[southpier]

I understand your frustration with not getting a response. I run a small business and I am the one that replies to E-mails, phone calls and people stopping in, but me being busy is no excuse to not responding.

ANY company that wants to get (and keep) business needs to have figured out what is the best ways to get inquiries handled. If they are having a problem with E-mails then shut off the E-mail and only have people call. Better to make people call than to not answer E-mails. If they are having E-mails go to SPAM than fix the SPAM settings. As my kids would say it isn't rock science.

this. it's the way business is conducted in the 90's. and don't beg people to take your $$$

[JRhetts]

Fantastic, another Earthroamer flame war! It seems like there are two groups of people that post on this forum- Happy Earthroamer owners and Earthroamer haters that have probably never even seen an EarthRoamer! What is it about Earthroamer that draws all of the naysayers out of the woodwork like cockroaches? Envy? Jealousy?

john278516

I think you have mischaracterized what has been going on in the 26 posts above. I see no suggestion of a 'flame war'. I see an exchange of thoughts, opinions and suggestions on the issue of customer service in general and with ER in specific.

I also think that there are distinctly more than the two groups you mention: at least also unhappy ER owners, ER owners with mixed opinions, and ER afficianados that likewise 'have probably never even seen a ER.'

And all of this mixture of viewpoints is offering thoughts and opinions, which I think is the whole point and purpose of a healthy internet Forum on any subject.

As a two-time ER owner beginning in 2004, who has reported on this Forum at times at length on my experience with the vehicle, I think the interesting question is: When someone, highly informed or less so, offers something critical about an ER, why do so many people seemingly feel the need to swarm in as if to blot out or reject any such comments? Will the vehicle and company not be able to just stand tall on its own account? Sure looks to me like they are doing well again, and they have garnered the same general range of opinion as just about any other interesting but-out-of-reach-of-a-middle-class-budget thing.

My .02.

[HumphreyBear]

Fantastic, another Earthroamer flame war! It seems like there are two groups of people that post on this forum- Happy Earthroamer owners and Earthroamer haters that have probably never even seen an EarthRoamer! What is it about Earthroamer that draws all of the naysayers out of the woodwork like cockroaches? Envy? Jealousy?

John if you reread the thread you'll see there is no hating going on with regard to EarthRoamer. The comments were started by a potential customer frustrated by a lack of response, followed by throngs of defence. The subsequent discussion was more on the nature of running a small and successful business without compromising on presales customer service. Dick Smith had considerable problems with his vehicle. He happens to be a very prominent and well respected person in Australia and his adventures (the man is a true adventurer) get plenty of publicity here. EarthRoamer would have to have a glass jaw to take anything in this thread as anything other than a temperate discussion based on real events.

Nor did anyone break into the envy and jealousy routine. I too hate the class warfare that occurs here on ExPo, I see absolutely no evidence of it this thread, in fact quite the opposite as pretty much everyone either already has one or is planning on getting one (or similar, in my case). The hater tag is unwarranted simply because we discussed a single shortcoming.

Humphrey

[HumphreyBear]

Or what JRhetts said! :0)

[portaladmin]

Fantastic, another Earthroamer flame war! It seems like there are two groups of people that post on this forum- Happy Earthroamer owners and Earthroamer haters that have probably never even seen an EarthRoamer! What is it about Earthroamer that draws all of the naysayers out of the woodwork like cockroaches? Envy? Jealousy?

I'm not an Earthroamer owner yet but I will be!!

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[Scott C]

Is john connected to earthroamer?