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    That video was pretty funny/scary.

    So in other words we're both saying the same thing. Lift it up and then lower it onto supports of some kind before working on it.....

    I would agree with you on the chassis except that you're going to bend the lower part of the body pretty bad with the straps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ipgregory View Post
    So in other words we're both saying the same thing. Lift it up and then lower it onto supports of some kind before working on it.....
    Sounds like.
    I would agree with you on the chassis except that you're going to bend the lower part of the body pretty bad with the straps.
    It depends on where you attach it. or rather where the strap is. I've found I can usually rig it in such a way that the pressure is on a structural member, not that I upright that many vehicles, but I've done a few over the years.
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    I've typically found that when the vehicle is on its side you can't easily get to the opposing (lower) side of the chassis with a strap. The strap has to pass under the vehicle and it’s not typically possible to feed it under there. Even in uneven terrain where there may be gaps and so forth it’s not a good idea to be messing around under the truck trying to feed a strap through. In softer terrain or water, forget it. I like to use the opposing b-pillar if the vehicle style and the lay allows. It's fairly central to the body, still provides a rotating force and is plenty strong enough to right the truck with minimal additional damage. Sometimes the type of vehicle (pick up/soft top) or the way the truck is laying doesn't allow you to get a strap there so you go to the uppermost body or frame mount on the underside facing you. No rotational effect, less leverage due to the lower angle, more force needed and more chance of sliding initially are the tradeoffs but sometimes it’s the only option.

    Hypothetically (since I’ve never come across a situation where it made sense to me to do this in this way during normal trail or overlanding use), if you are just tipping an upright vehicle to make repairs as they are (or appear to be) demonstrating here, you could go to the opposing frame since it has rock sliders and there is less danger of damaging the lower body. On a stock truck the frame itself and the outriggers are inboard of the outer body panels with no substantial panels to rest on and the strap will bend the panels at that lower point. On different vehicles it may or may not be possible depending on the position of the frame hard points and the body panel or armor (if any) configuration. You'd have to make the call on a case by case basis, assuming you wanted to do this to begin with.

    What I think we agree on is that you never want to attach to a 'bolt on' accessory such as a roof rack. On a flimsy external cage such as this one you would want to be pulling it into the truck rather than away and even then only if a better option is not available. It would appear a number of better options were available to them in this set up as pictured.
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    Awesome video. I lived in Arabia for sixteen years, and I never saw anything like that on the highway. There are lots of empty roads on which to attempt such stunts in Arabia. But if it goes wrong, it may go wrong big time because they may be hours away from the hospital. I admire their courage but doubt their judgment.

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    That 110 is Graham Jackson's. I'm confident that whatever was displayed there, he was present, and it was demonstrating a very important skill with safety at top of mind.
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