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Thread: We are looking at getting a Xterra for an expo vehicle General input wanted.

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    I will add only a short response.

    The Xterra is a great platform for overlanding. A locker is worth it's weight in gold.
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    Oh. I forgot, the forum for the gen 2 xterras is: www.thenewx.org

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    Quote Originally Posted by jarmentrout View Post
    I'll try to write more later when I have a little more time and perhaps add some photos. But I agree with almost everything Ronaprhys as said above. In summary though my 06 off road xterra with a 6 speed manual has been a great vehicle for travel and adventure both on road and off. All I've ever owned have been 4x4 except for commuter cars and all of them jeeps until I got this xterra. Engine is great, ride is great (with inexpensive mod), big enough to haul stuff, the rear lift gate provides shelter and will open all the way even with a trailer on. And, fold the rear seat back down, open the lift gate and you have full visibility to back a trailer anywhere you need to. Mine has roof mounted curtain air bags as well as seat and front, and while I havent had to use them, it's nice to know they are there, especially when traveling in new territory and watching scenery.

    I also can't say enough good about the electronics, not enough to get in the way and raise the cost of the vehicle to new 4runner levels, but just enough to be useful. Take for example the vehicle stability control, especially great with a trailer. It realigns the truck to the road without input from the driver. Spoil you rotten. And the electronic limited slip, that works on the front axle even in low range with the rear locker on. And, since I live and Maine and play in northern Maine, I sometimes use chains on all four wheels and it takes them fine. As he said earlier, the manual trans models get a lower axle ratio making low range (2.69 if memory serves) x 1st gear x 3.69 = a great crawl. OR models also some stock with 265/75/16 tires, a little bigger than the other models and the speedo is spot on.

    Seats are comfortable for me at 6' as I prefer to have a higher seat and sit like one would on a nice chair in your living room with my knees bent, rather than have a high floor like a taco and sit stretched out.

    I can sleep in the back and as a bonus, the back of the front passenger seat folds forward to make a completely flat bedside table for a lamp and the latest issue of Overland Journal. (replacing interior lights with LEDs is an improvement in light as well as battery life, and the rear 12v outlet as well as the one in the console box, and two on the dash are useful as well.)

    It was mentioned earlier that the wet box on the roof is mostly useless. I disagree. I keep straps, bungees, rope, tarp, jumper cables, etc up there and its been very handy. The gen2 has a nice closing lid that latches. And even though the name might imply otherwise, everything stays dry. And there a good amount of storage under the rear deck too.

    Just a little more about the engine. It just works well. And the torque is great. I can drive and shift it like a truck with a v8.

    If you will be exploring off road a bit I would recommend a couple of additions: 1) a shrockworks.com or similar rear bumper. It has an integrated tow receiver and will improve your departure angle significantly over a factory style hitch. Before installing, add some skateboard grip tape to the top surface. Wheelbase is shorter than a JKU by a little, but the departure angle is a little worse. Hasn't been a problem for me.

    2) prgproducts or similar rear AALs and spacers or similar. Will add almost 2" and rides better, with little if any impact on mileage.

    3). Run the rear axle breather mod all the way up to the top of the firewall. Not much more work and you won't get water in the hose from rain running in behind the tail light.

    For the price difference over a JKUR you can also add an ARB locker on the front if you wanted.

    A few things I'd change if they ask me:
    1). Why is reverse gear higher than first? When would I want to go faster in reverse with less visibility than I would forward? Come on Nissan, it's not a 370z. We tow stuff.

    2) the alternator is located low. Though I have not had a problem at all in 74k miles, I just don't know why they'd do this.

    I'm selling mine. But only because I ordered another 2012 to get another 6 years or more on a great (undervalued) vehicle. I want to get one before they have a chance to change it into a foo foo puffy wagon like the 4 runner for > $38k.
    Dont worry about that. The x will never be half the vehicle of the 4 runner.

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    I really appreciate all the feedback. The jury is still out on the decision. We are trying to find a gen 2 to check out. We still have the back up plan of a Grand Cherokee with the 4.7HO as default (as I am by nature a Jeep guy) but I am still wanting to give the xterra a chance. We are going to be looking at an 07 this weekend.

    I never agreed with AAL. It always seemed like a band-aid. I would probably see about just replacing the whole leaf packs to gain carrying and towing capacity.

    Someone said the diffs (as in both) are aluminum? is this correct including on the offroad package with the Dana 44?

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    I don't believe that aluminum is a strong enough metal to be used as a load bearing gear set. I could be wrong......
    J.W.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott C View Post
    Dont worry about that. The x will never be half the vehicle of the 4 runner.
    Don't take my statements the wrong way. I'm in no way bashing any other vehicle. I would be perfectly happy driving a 4runner trail, but just don't want to spend that much. And I want a manual, as I can rebuild them myself if necessary, and the autos in my experience are expensive to fix. I should revise my post. I just wish that we could get a pretty basic truck like wagon from toyota like the rest of the world. I'd buy that instead in a heart beat.
    Last edited by jarmentrout; 05-31-2012 at 10:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMA4x4 View Post
    I really appreciate all the feedback. The jury is still out on the decision. We are trying to find a gen 2 to check out. We still have the back up plan of a Grand Cherokee with the 4.7HO as default (as I am by nature a Jeep guy) but I am still wanting to give the xterra a chance. We are going to be looking at an 07 this weekend.

    I never agreed with AAL. It always seemed like a band-aid. I would probably see about just replacing the whole leaf packs to gain carrying and towing capacity.

    Someone said the diffs (as in both) are aluminum? is this correct including on the offroad package with the Dana 44?
    Nissan did put some weak rear springs on these. But the aal pack that prg offers adds the two bottom leafs that nissan should have added. So there's no rearranging of the leafs, just adding two to the bottom. Or go with the ome full leaf packs.

    The rear with locker is a conventional solid axle made of iron and steel. The front case is aluminum as is most vehicles with IFS.
    Last edited by jarmentrout; 05-31-2012 at 10:11 PM.

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    [QUOTE=

    The rear with locker is a conventional solid axle made of iron and steel. The front case is aluminum as is most vehicles with IFS.[/QUOTE]

    Ah yes, the casings but not the gear set. Makes sense now.
    J.W.
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    95 Monty LS with 33 10.50 KM2s, air locker, winch, snorkel, sliders, bottle opener, and stuff...-EMT,Auto Tech, US ARMY Survival and land navigation specialist, US ARMY VETERAN 1st CAV 1st BGD COLT Team 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott C View Post
    Dont worry about that. The x will never be half the vehicle of the 4 runner.
    Blanket statements after an insightful post is a bit juvenile.

    How about instead of being snarky, you provide extra information to assist the OP in making an educated decision about his potential purchase?
    Last edited by CoastalDefender; 05-31-2012 at 10:54 PM.
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    I actually like the new pro-4x's. Just not on the same level as 4-runner IMO. No offense to anyone.

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