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    Default I flipped my M416

    I flipped my M416 this week . My RTT was totaled as well as some new Alu-Boxes. The trailer seems fine. Now to figure out how it happened. The road was not too rough and the speed was slow.

    I was thinking the lunette ring was too tight not allowing the trailer to stay on the ground when the truck is articulating.

    Lucky there was a tree that allowed a 90 degree winch oull to get it righted.
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    That sucks.

    Did the lunette seize in the frame mount maybe? I know that they are supposed to be able to rotate hence the zerk grease port...maybe it didn't and the truck articulated and the trailer just followed along instead of the lunette rotating? Mine turns reasonably easily in the mount, well with some force.

    Just tossing that out there? Sorry that your tent and bins paid the price.
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    I'm guessing your spring rate is too high. I had the same problem on my m100. I didn't fix it. I thought about what it might be, what could fix it, the price if it happened again (i popped a hole in a maggiolina) and bought another trailer with a different suspension. I concluded removing a leaf or 2 might help. Mine happened on a similar type of road at low speed.
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    Yikes... Sorry about that. Nicely outfitted trailer!
    Hope you can figure out how it happened, as you wrote the road and speed shouldn't of been a factor.
    FWIW and believe me it's only a wild speculation... some type of suspension issue along with a tight hitch???

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    Cows are out of the barn, but I would look at a max coupler or lock and roll. Far superior and far harder to steal to.

    Sorry to see all the destruction, but no one was hurt and just think of the stories you will have to tell about the body rash.

    I seriously doubt suspension caused the problem. My guess is the lunette seized up and twisted with the tow vehicle.

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    "Owch" that hurt's, you'll have to put lead weights hung from the axle and keep the weight lower.

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    I don't think it had anything to do with the hitch being too tight. Looks like too much weight up top combined with an unfortunate set of terrain/vehicle dynamics circumstances.

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    Ditto. Were you braking at the time? I don't see articulation being an issue given the terrain. How much total weight were you carrying? Any bouncing of the trailer at the time? It honestly just looks like a top-heavy flop.
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    From using those in the Army I'd say it didn't have the tongue weight it needed. Along with the suspension being designed for incredibly heavy loads. If your gonna fix it I'd suggest removing a leaf or two, and getting longer shackles with new mounts that let the shackle move more freely backwards. When just sitting at ride height they should have a good angle on them with the leaf pin a inch or two behind the mount pin. That'll make it much more suitable for lighter loads. Also put some shocks on it, that'll really help with the control on the washboard roads. Good luck

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