Not worth upcharge if you aren't towing. Most are $7000 more over the gasser version, $7000 grand buys an awful lot of fuel.
He should really go test drive a Ford eco-boost, honest 17-20 mpg "if" you keep your foot out of it...BUT has plenty of power on tap. Not a Ford Eco, fan boy, it gets the better fuel economy out of the half tons, and has power to boost. A Chevy 6.2 Vortec Max will average 14-18 depending on driver, and as low as 10 mpg's. Tundra 13-16ish...might be the best built out of all of them.
Heck test drive all of them all and see what he likes best...plus would be a good idea to put down on paper cost of ownership comparisons. That is if money
is an object...if one is worried about fuel economy, I would assume it is.
In the end there is no "one" perfect vehicle, gotta buy what fills the needs and the desires.
Devil's Advocate, Eco-Boost Raptor...
And for some reason...I just don't like Dodge...never really have, not sure why..
Last edited by Kermit; 07-03-2012 at 01:52 AM.
As a GM owner, I will attest to the longevity of the truck and the comfortable ride, but I don't like the costs of suspension parts, and for some reason mine has been eating front suspension stuff like crazy. If he plans on using it for more than a fairly mild trail, I would personally stay away from the GM's purely for that reason. And I know I will probably get yelled at for saying this, but after driving one for a couple of years now in a fleet of them, I would also stay far away from the Powerstroke diesel. The service truck I drive is a 99 F450 with the well loved 7.3 liter. 88,000 miles on it, and it drives like it has 10 times that. It is extremely gutless, and the automatic transmission seems to cycle over all the gears way too often for my tastes. It probably doesn't help that it has a 12 foot steel flatbed with a 5,000 pound carry capacity crane on it, and that it weighs in at a whopping 14,000 pounds, but with all the hype that it gets, I have been extremely unimpressed. Luckily, I don't have to drive it as often anymore.
If I had to choose between the big three, I would probably go with Dodge again. My old one seemed like it needed very little in the way of maintenance, drove fairly comfortably on and off road, and wasn't too bad to look at either. However, given the opportunity, I would love to find a new gen Tundra. My supervisor has one with the TRD package, and I love the stance of it and of course being a Toyota, it has a great fit and finish on the inside as well as the out. That 5.7 doesn't have a hard time getting out of it's own way either.
2005 Chevy Silverado Base 4X4: 4.8L, Auto, 4 door ex cab, short box, AEM Brute Force CAI, Flowmaster 40 SI/DO, 285's on 17 inch Helo's Summer and 265's on 17 inch Devino's for winter, custom made center console, custom engine tunes, custom headache rack, Kobalt contractors tool box, color matched grille and sport mirrors, HD towing mirrors, no power options but I got A/C!
1992 Ford Ranger XLT 4X4: Needs a lot more done to it!
Bronco.jpgThanks for all the input. I will go test drive a few and from what is being tossed around Im now considering a gasser. I basically wanted something for dirt road, Im not going to take it on anything crazy. I can tow my bronco around for the tough stuff. I wanted the option of putting a big popup camper or flip pac. I might even want to tow my bronco or eventually a boat. I was leaning to a Diesel because I have heard that they run forever. I plan on using the truck for my everyday vehicle until its payed off then keeping it for towing/camping. Im sure Ill have a few more questions down the road.
Didn't know you were towing plus a camper, diesel for sure then. Gas mileage will be awful with a gasser, not to mention down on power.
Last edited by Kermit; 07-03-2012 at 02:36 AM.
Ej - it was never brought up about towing the bronco (or eventually a boat). I would definitely go with a diesel between longevity, torque and gas mileage.
I agree with Kermit, never liked dodge, dont know why. However, the power wagons sure are sexy!
Keep us posted after your test drives.
I tow my TJ and have a Flippac on my Ram 1500 with the 5.7. It tows fine, but MPG is usually around 9-10. My 1/2 ton is just more comfortable than the heavier trucks I have driven.
No doubt a diesel will tow better, but maybe 2% of the miles on my truck are towing, so it wasn't my highest priority...
2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon on 35s
2005 Dodge Ram 1500 with Flippac - daily driver
1961 GMC Suburban - project
i'll toss in my $0.02, but from what i experienced with my cusin and his trucks. he was big dirt bike and ATV guy and he had one of those toy hualer campers. started with a hemi 2500 4x4 ram. pulled no problem, but sucked on gas. then he got a 07 2500 4x4 sport Cummins. it was an awesome truck if you ask me. rode great and smooth, more then enough power. but he wanted an SUV so he could store stuff inside it. enter a ford excursion powerstroke. he didnt like it very much, ride, noise, diesel smell. he soon got rid of the ford. he sold off most his toys and now has an Armada.
NICK ~ CrazyEyeZ
2005 GMC Canyon Z71 4x4 crewcab < 355Nation.net >
-2" lift shackles, TB's cranked to level, Rancho shocks, 31x10.5x15 FireStone DestinationLE's
-roof rack, 24v LED flood and spot lights, 2x 4ft FireSticks, Cobra 29 classic w/weather
-custom HD bullbar with 4 130w KC DayLighters
are you stuck on a new model for any reason in particular? the older ones tend to last longer and get better mileage. just curious.
2000 ford excursion 33" cooper st maxx, diesel
1994 ford explorer cooper stt's winch bumper, 8274
1994 ford f350 crewcab powerstroke and five speed on 37's with superduty rsk and resevoir shocks
1980 honda cb750 driveway holder downer
1988 fwc grandby
The newer body style is growing on me, believe this belongs to a member on here.
Saw it on the Carli Suspension website.
Dodge is the only manufacture still offering a manual transmission in the fullsize trucks, not sure on the petrol, but know for sure on the oil burners.