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Thread: Jeep rubicon unlimited or Toyota 4runner Trail

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    Default Jeep rubicon unlimited or Toyota 4runner Trail

    Ok, like many others looking to decide between two vehicles, both 2012 models and automatics. Driven both and in the end doubt there is a 'bad' choice. I am not a rock crawler, but a hiker in the NW who goes mostly on logging roads and the occasional deactivated road to get to trailheads. Also my DD, but most weekends out to mountains.

    Pros for the jeep: will more than meet my needs, simple but very functional. best off road given locking diffs, electirc sway bar disconnect and great ground clearance/departure and approach angles (tend to be a lot of water-bars/ditches here). lots of solid armour underneath. Cons: a bit rough to drive, but hey it is a jeep and the roof comes off if you want it too. reliability is mixed, though of late it looks much better. Exped Portal rates highly however. Note that breakover angle is only 20.8 on the Unlimited Rubicon.

    Pros for,Toyota: locking rear diff and ATRAC as well as KDSS are a close match for jeep off road. With a good driver they have taken almost stock model (except tires) on the Rubicon trail to test. it is a Toyota - reliability in spades. This is in fact a Land Cruiser in a Prada form. good road manners (much more car like though dull) but also,good off road. ExPed Portal gives as a runner up,to Rubicon. Cons: poor tires, will need to replace right away.Approach angles Ok at 33, but departure low at 26. much less than a rubi unlimited though the breakover angle is better at 24.

    Bottom line: Rubi probably can be had to about $2k or $3k less. my biggest concern is relability as used to good vehicles and also no worries off road. My wife likes the Toyota largely for reliability. Maybe Scott Brady will chime in, but pleased to hear others views/thoughts.
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    Granted this is coming from a Rubicon Unlimited owner, a 2011 with a 6-speed, but for me the price difference would seal the deal.

    I like the fact that I can go door less, etc. but I don't know know how valuable that is to you.

    And in terms of off road ability, I'd say unless truly doing something to take advantage of the sway bar disconnect and the articulation advantage it provides, it'd be a wash.

    With the new motors and transmissions in the Jeeps, that's also a wash to me.

    Comparable space; though the 4runner is probably quieter and of higher quality materials, the Jeep has the advantage of removable carpets, etc. after getting dirty.

    So like you said, there's no wrong answer, but one's cheaper. If you really have no leanings, then the savings are a plus. And with those savings you can accessorize your Jeep, which if compared to what my friends have to pay with their FJs, is much cheaper.
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    Thought the following article my interest you. Pangea Expedition rates the Rubicon Unlimited as the best US Expedition vehicle. The 4Runner Trail gets an honorable mention.

    http://pangaea-expeditions.com/5-bes...land-vehicles/

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    Realistically, where will the majority of its time be? On road or off road- 80/20 90/10 or 95/5? We know that the Rubi rules in the out of box rock crawler world/off road, and the Toy wins in the reliability and on road with off road being secondary. It's nice being able to drive hours on the road to get to the forest without being worn out before you get there. But I'm bias being a 4runner owner.

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    Rubi makes you feel like a kid (again)

    4Runner will ease the pain into old manhood...










    I am Toyota guy, I would go for the Rubi....manual transmission, a removable top, better off road performance....just a more fun vehicle.

    Think I am like most Toyota "guys" wishing Toyota would have their own version of a modern classic, a 4 door updated FJ40...the Jeep fills that void, where Toyota is getting downright boring.

    Ah c'mon Toyota we would love to have something like this, that doesn't cost $200,000!

    FJ44_f1.jpg

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    I would like to say more time on the back roads, but reality is probably more like 90% highway, 10% back roads or 85/15 in a good week. However the the new Rubi drives reasonably well on hwy, but not as nice as Toyota.

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    If I had to buy a new one and NOT MODIFY, I'd get the Toyota-I've got two toyotas-, but

    For ANY off-road and chances of some troubles/towing--I'll stay with the Rubi-and mines a pleasure to drive and tow trailer anywhere-

    Good luck, whatever your choice-

    JIMBO

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    Plenty of good opinions in here. I say go for whatever one excites you the most, both are great platforms! Both have good out of the box capability and great aftermarket support.

    For me, that was the 4runner Trail Edition was the one that caught my eye. Had it for 18 months now, put a ~35K miles on it in that time doing cool trips and still look forward to driving it everyday. In fact, getting ready to drive from DC to Colorado and Moab for the next 2 weeks starting Saturday.
    www.dirtroadtrip.com
    Scratching the itch for off-road adventure one weekend, one vacation at a time, taking our Toyota trucks well off the beaten path one day and driving them to work the next!

    2010 Toyota 4Runner Trail
    Washington, DC

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    more room in the runner!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jam23r1 View Post
    more room in the runner!!!!
    Until you take the Jeep's top off!!!!

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