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    Default Picked up a broken 99 D2 for 1300.00.

    Picked up a non-running 1999 Discovery 2 this weekend. The previous owner thinks it has a broken timing chain. According to him he was driving along, running well, no overheating, and the engine suddenly shut down. It cranks like it has no compression in several cylinders. (even whine from the starter, without much indication of compression change). This would correspond with some bent valves causing multiple cylinders without compression. Won't know until I pull the valve covers and see if the valves are moving. Then the heads to see how bad the damage is.

    The odometer says 114K. I've never personally come across a Rover with a broken chain, and wouldn't expect that at this mileage. Anyone seen something like this before?

    If this is the problem and there's no serious piston damage I'm planning to pressure test the block, throw some new heads and gaskets on, and a new cam/lifters, etc. and run it. The rest of the truck is really clean. It has manual cloth seats, one sunroof, etc. so it's a base, which I like. Brand new set of Michelin LTX M/S's on it too.

    Will follow up with more details on the damage when I get to it.

    David

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    thats a heck of a deal, if it were me, I'd stick a diesel in there...in my opinion rover makes a find chassis and running gear, but their engines (at least in the US) leave a lot to be desired.

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    man, what a score.

    even if it needs a new motor you'll be ahead
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    We had a 95 disco come through the shop with higher mileage but similar complaint. The cam gear actually stripped and caused valve to piston contact. We put a new timing chain and gear set on it and rebuilt the heads and its been running smooth now for about 10,000 miles

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    Quote Originally Posted by oryxexpeditions View Post
    ........... It cranks like it has no compression in several cylinders............ This would correspond with some bent valves causing multiple cylinders without compression..
    Doesn't necessarily mean the valves are bent. A broken chain/stripped gear (non rotating cam) would cause this also, as the cam lobes would be holding several valves open/partially open.

    Quote Originally Posted by baja5337 View Post
    ......... The cam gear actually stripped and caused valve to piston contact..........
    Although it sounds like they have an 'interference' type motor, so there could be damage.

    Heck of a score! Even if it turns out to need a complete rebuild on the engine!

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    How much does a full engine rebuild cost?

    Oddly enough am all too similar 99 DII in white with cloth interior popped up locally with "overheating" problem for a couple more dollars than this one.

    Hum... now you got me thinking about it
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    A broken cam has also occurred to me. Apparently this has happened on a few as well. The stripped gear or a broken keyway seems to be a pattern too.
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    Could it be something as simple as a non-engine related issue? My truck likes to drive along perfectly normally, then the engine quits, I drift to the side of the road, open the hood, no fuel pressure at rail, pull the foam/carpet up in the back, undo the plate ontop of the gas tank, pull the connectors to the fuel pump/guage, blow on them, put it back together, pressure at rail, starts, runs fine until another random time where it does it. lol. I figure I should get that figured out at some point.

    All I'm saying is, and I'm sure you have, or this guy has, check all the easy stupid stuff first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeremyT101 View Post
    Could it be something as simple as a non-engine related issue? My truck likes to drive along perfectly normally, then the engine quits, I drift to the side of the road, open the hood, no fuel pressure at rail, pull the foam/carpet up in the back, undo the plate ontop of the gas tank, pull the connectors to the fuel pump/guage, blow on them, put it back together, pressure at rail, starts, runs fine until another random time where it does it. lol. I figure I should get that figured out at some point.

    All I'm saying is, and I'm sure you have, or this guy has, check all the easy stupid stuff first.
    I would go to that stuff if the engine had compression. But since it doesn't, it must be an internal problem.

    On your fuel cut out, I've been there and done that on two of my Discos. Just order a new fuel pump harness and that problem will be solved.
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    my money is on crankshaft position sensor or fuel pump. let me know if i win the pool.
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