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  1. #41
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
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    104
    My wife and I will be in a similar situation in the future and from what I've read/thought about I'm leaning towards a Taco/Frontier and a full size Montero 98/99 gen 2.5.

    Currently we only have a 1 1/2 year old girl, but plan on adding a few more down the road. Owning two XJ's will be a little bit rough once we have the second child. I'm 6'3" so anyone that sits behind me doesn't get much legroom. Fortunately, we plan on spacing the kids out 2-3 years apart so we shouldn't have two space consuming infant type seats at the same time. We currently use an infant type booster seat that can go from 5-50lbs and has a variety of positions that go from more of a recline to almost straight up like a true booster seat.

    We had a 96 Tacoma access cab before having our little girl, but sold it due to lack of a backseat, hence the 2nd Cherokee. We don't do any serious off-roading so I'm only sporting a 3" lift on 30.5" tires. I used to have the desire/plans of having a 4.5" lift with 31/32s all decked out. Realizing that that would only cause me to go on harder trails, my plans soon changed seeing as how I'd have my family with me. Without having a proper roll cage, I don't want to be on any trails where I could potentially break something or get us stuck.

    So... my decision on a Monty + midsize truck:

    Having a larger family requires more seats. Monty has a third row, albeit not a huge amount of space but with spacing the kids out, the smaller ones can go in the back where they require less leg room.

    Hitch basket, rocket box, or small pull behind trailer can accomodate the loss of space utilizing third row seating for longer trips that require more gear.

    Due to not needing a big lift/tires, a fairly stock Monty can accomplish the things we need on the trail and the types of trails we'll most likely be doing.

    IFS isn't the best for off-road, but our trails will be fine with it. Plus it'd be nice to have a big cushier of a ride on longer trips.

    Factory locker with the Monty

    MPG is roughly the same, if not better (from reports on here) than my current XJ averaging 15.1mpg w/mixed driving =/

    Now for the Taco/Frontier... we run a lawn business during the summer and miss having a truck for hauling purposes. Originally I thought a F150 would be nice to have, but realized that we wouldn't utilize the capacity of a full size truck as much as I thought to warrant the extra loss of MPG.

    Either truck technically fits 5, but realistically it gets cramped with 2 car seats. The middle part of the rear seat becomes almost useless, but by spacing our kids out in age, we shouldn't have two big car seats at the same time (unless we're blessed with twins).

    If we ever need extra seating in the truck, I like Box Rocket's idea of adding two bucket seats into the bed with a topper on. This would allow for a family of 6 to comfortably be in the truck.

    A full size truck would be great for space, but doesn't fit our needs. My in-law has an F150 and I feel like I have a ton of room when sitting in the back, but they're also 5'0" and 5'1" so their seats sit forward a lot.

    If contemplating on a Gen 1 or Gen 2 Frontier or Tacoma, the Gen 2 is definitely the way to go in terms of rear seat space. I've looked at Cars.com comparing both Gens with one another to see which is the better one to get, and the Gen 2 of both makes is better on space.

    As for the double cab Taco (gen 2) having more rear space than the double cab Frontier (gen 2), I'm not 100% sold on that unless you've tried to fit carseats in both.

    According to Cars.com, here is a comparison of interior space of the Gen 2 Frontier and Gen 2 Taco double cabs

    Frontier:
    Front legroom 42.4”
    33.6" Rear legroom
    40.0" Front headroom
    38.7" Rear headroom
    55.6" Front hiproom
    58.0" Rear hiproom
    58.3" Front shoulder room
    58.3" Rear shoulder room
    101.1 cu.ft. passenger volume

    Tacoma:
    Front legroom 41.7”
    32.6" Rear legroom
    40.1" Front headroom
    38.5" Rear headroom
    53.6" Front hiproom
    55.2" Rear hiproom
    57.7" Front shoulder room
    59.3" Rear shoulder room
    98.9 cu.ft. Passenger volume

    The Frontier comes out on top in just about every category with regards to interior space, even if it is a slight advantage. When trying to work in carseats, ever little bit counts. Not to mention that used Frontier's are typically a little bit cheaper than used Tacos. Each truck has their own little quirks, but which vehicle doesn't?

    We don't really like Suburbans or Expeditions so those are out of the question, hence settling on a Montero and Taco/Frontier. I've also thought about the newer Pathfinders, as they have a third row too... just haven't done enough research on them.

    Finding the right vehicle for a growing family that you like and for outdoor recreation sucks =)

  2. #42
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    GA
    Posts
    20
    I am in the same boat. I have a family of 5. The Mrs. and I, 12yr old son, 4yr old daughter, and 2yr old son. I dutch shepherd and looking to get either a Cattle dog or a GSD in the next year.

    We have a 99 4runner. Bone stock. Always wanted one. We just sold our 89 v1500 4wd suburban that was easy to wrench on and reliable as the day was long but the MPG's left something to be desired.

    Now here we are with 2 kids in car seats and a 5'+ 12yr old crammed in between them almost sitting sideways. Forget hauling any gear. Just the baby crap going to a bday party a couple weeks ago had us maxed out.

    The wife thank God wants another suburban. I found a sweet 85 in my area that the man would consider out right trading my 4runner for it. He put a lot of work into it and I don't want to be the guy who tries to get one over on him either. He is asking 5k for it and I think (I can find them for 1500-2500 all day long but once you go through them and tighten everything up etc. 5k isn't far off when they are nice.)

    It is a tough call but I would have my heart set on a 4bt/6bt/nv4500 and 3/4-1ton axles on 35's and then all the overlanding outfitting in the future.

    I am a huge yota fan. Always have been but....they are expensive from purchase to parts. FZJ's and the sort are my dream but they just don't have the space. Even considering trailers for my lot still doesn't give us the space for comfortable road trips without looking like samford and son coming down the highway.

    Just my 2cents.

  3. #43
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Delta, BC
    Posts
    955
    The biggest problem with the smaller SUV is the rear facing infant car seat and both parents 6ft and taller. We had a Montero and it proved too small although being a cool little stout truck. We flipped it for a Ford Expedition and it does everything well. Our 2004 can tow, is safer than a rubber room and has plenty of room. Keep in mind that many times during a trip one of the parents has to sit in the back to attend to feeding the kids while the other parent is driving. With a fullsize you get enough room to multi task while travelling the small SUV doesn't allows this unless you are all umpalumpas.
    '78 Bronco
    '10 F150
    '04 Expedition


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