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    Talking Building an 88 4runner for overland!

    HI, my name is Louis and I would like to set my 4runner up for vehicle dependent travels. I would appreciate any advice and or ideas, or a mentor!

    Thanks

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    While I'm not a 4Runner owner, I can say Welcome!
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    Thanks for the welcome BN GUY!

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    The first thing you need to do is figure out exactly what you want your vehicle to accomplish. What kind of trails do you want to traverse, how far do you want to be able to travel without fuel stops, do you want to sleep in the vehicle (as opposed to in a tent or a trailer), will you be travelling solo, or with other people, will this be a daily driver, or just a vehicle used on the trips, etc.

    There are several people here with a wide range of knowledge that can point you in the right direction. Some of us are even in your neck of the woods (or desert, as the case may be).

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    Hello Louis, welcome to the forum.

    Building a vehicle for expedition travel is a wonderful proposition, and not because of the way the vehicle will look or perform (though that is a bonus), but where it will take you.

    I will start by putting things in perspective though: Your 4Runner, with only a few basic modifications, and a thorough servicing can literally travel around the world. You do not need to spend a bunch of money on the vehicle.

    Where the majority of your expense and time will be spent is in the logistics of planning the trip, testing equipment, learning the routes and language, etc.

    But for now, here is a start on the vehicle side of things. I just recently posted this on another forum, but feel it to be appropriate here as well:

    1. Start with a great vehicle: You already have that
    2. Install HD tires, like the MTR or BFG AT/MT rated at D or higher. Trend towards a narrower section width but tall height, which allows good clearance, less lift and better efficiency (like a 265/75, 235/85 or 255/85)
    3. Organization and loading: This is VERY critical. Heavy loads down low and light loads up top. Avoid a roof rack if at all possible, unless lightly loaded or for a roof tent. Build a load system for all of your major equipment needs. Have a well organized kitchen, accessible recovery gear, etc. You will be living out of the vehicle, so it is critical that it be organized and safe. This is WAY more important than big tires and a lift IMO.
    4. Passenger comfort: Have a comfortable place to drive, good seats, well organized cockpit, a place for the cameras, sunglasses, hats, bug repellent, etc. Have a comfortable and easy to set-up sleeping system. It should only take 10-15 minutes from parking the car to having a comfortable and dry bed. A fridge is a must IMHO.
    5. Navigation and Communication: Know where you are and where you are going with a redundant system. Know how to use a map and compass, and have an exit plan. Be able to communicate with your travel partners clearly, and over great distances (2m is my preference).
    6. REALLY GOOD SUSPENSION. Don't skimp here. It needs to ride comfortably and reliably all day long, for weeks on end with loads at or above GVW.
    7. Quality support systems: Air compressors, dual batteries, recovery systems (winch, etc.) are all critical, and should be well thought out, designed and easily serviced. If you can't repair the systems on your vehicle, (unsupported) expedition travel is probably not a good choice.
    8. Technical trail modifications: These are usually the first thing addressed, but really are not that important on an expedition as you will most likely be traveling "roads". I tend to search out very rough tracks in Mexico with deep water crossing and heavy erosion so lockers and snorkels are appropriate, but still not required.
    9. TEST, TEST, TEST: Never bolt mods on your truck the night before a trek. Test all systems thoroughly.
    10. This is last on this list, but probably as important as number one: The trek is not about the vehicle, but about the experience and adventure. Visiting a distant place that a fraction of the population will even see in books. The vehicle and all of these modifications can be a distraction to the real intent of the expedition. Don't be afraid to stop the vehicle and talk with the locals, be friendly and generous, especially when traveling in other countries. I always bring several 24 packs of Coke, as it is the ultimate "ice breaker".
    Scott Brady
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    I like #10. Very nice.

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    Scott,

    Thank you, I look forward to tackling different terrain. It has always been a dream of mine to meet like minded people and to travel the world... but like the motto says "always be prepared" I just want to try and have all of my bases covered. Your truck looks great and so does everyone elses but more than anything I enjoy looking at the trips that were taken. I want to learn as much as I can from you guys as I know I will!

    Thanks for the welcomes!



    P.S. Scott get more SMILEY's

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    I know many of us will enjoy helping you along the journey!

    on the smiley's, I will work on it... I have a few I have collected that I really like. I will post them soon.
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    So please tell us more about your 4Runner, the modifications completed and the areas you are interested in exploring. That will help get the ideas flowing.
    Scott Brady
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    I would have to echo Scotts great suggestions -

    The Engel fridge - Dual batteries/Hellroaring switch

    The suspension/tires - Donahoe//Deaver/Bilsteins -BFG-MT

    have made the biggest difference vehicle wise in my adventure experiances.

    Once out there #10 is what it is all about - in Moab handing out a simple bottle of cold water out of my fridge to a bicyclist was worth the smiles and conversation -

    Welcome Louis ! to one of the best virtual adventure spots on the net
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