Which Winch? Engo E12000 or Superwinch TS11500

[The_Dude]

I am set on synthetic rope in the future. The Engo can be had with Syn rope but I would like something a bit higher quality when I can afford it so I am going with a steel rope winch right now to save some cash.

I am looking at one of these winches. I cannot decide which one though.

The Engo has great reviews and can be had with steel line for $350 ish. $500 with syn rope.
The Superwinch seems a bit more proven to me due to the name and reputation. With steel line its running $500.

You cannot put syn rope on the Superwinch according to Superwinch. It seems like it has the same type of brake as a bunch of the other companies selling chinese winches with syn rope.
It seems that if you are very careful powering out you can avoid ridiculous drum temps that melt the syn rope.
I cant find as many reviews on the Superwinch but the majority of what I have read is good.

The Engo has the lowest amp draw with almost twice the line speed at 12000lbs than the Tiger Shark does at 11500lbs.

I am pretty new to winches so please let me know what you guys think!

Superwinch:
Here is what separates the Tiger Shark Series apart from the pretenders:
11500 lbs of Rated Line Pull-Built to bite almost any application
Weather Sealed 6.0 HP motor-Reduces damage from rain, snow and blowing dust
Heavy-Duty 3-Stage Gearboxe-Handles stress and torque on demand
Heavy-Duty Drum Supports-Load tested all the way to stall
Weather Sealed Solenoids-Reduces damage from rain, snow and blowing dust
Severe-Duty Textured Finish-Resists harsh outdoor and off-road abuse
Heavy-Duty Rubber Hand-held Remote-Field proven design provides effortless switching
Stainless Steel Tie Bars and Hardware-Great appearance & resists damage from rain and snow
Heavy-Duty Fairlead with Stainless Steel Rollers-Brushed finish endures weather and wire rope abuse
Ergonomically Shaped Freespool Control-Easy to grip and effortless to operate.
Specifications
Rated Line Pull 11,500 lbs (5,216 kg)
Motor Sealed 6.0 HP Series Wound
Gearing 3-Stage Planetary
Gear Ratio 218:1
Solenoid Weather Sealed Solenoid and Circuit Breaker Protected
Clutch Pull and Turn, Ergo
Brake Mechanical, Automatic Load Holding
Rope Wire 3/8" x 84' (9.5mm x 26m)
Hook Heavy Duty Clevis Pinned Latched
Fairlead Heavy-Duty, Stainless Steel 4-Way Roller
Remote 12' Rubber Sealed Hand-held
Dimensions 20.8" L x 6.3" W x 9.2 H (529mm L x 160mm W x 234.5mm H)
Drum Diameter 2.5" (64mm)
Drum Length 9" (228.6mm)
Installed Weight 94 lbs. (42 kg)
Shipping Weight 98 lbs (44 kg)
Warranty Limited 2 Year Warranty
UPC 0 22705 00361 2
Line PUll: 0 lbs (0 kgs) 80 Amps Motor Draw/19 FPM (5.7 MPM) Line Speed
Line PUll: 11,500 lbs (5,216 kgs) 410 Amps Motor Draw/2 FPM (0.6 M/M) Line Speed
Engo: The weight is for the Syn rope model. Add 25lbs for wire rope...
Model Number: Model E12000

Performance
12VDC
Single Line Rated Pull
12,000lb (5443kg)
Motor 6.0hp/4.5kw, Series Wound
Control Remote switch,12ft (3.7m)lead
Gear Train 3 Stage Planetary
Gear Reduction Ratio 265.2:1
Clutch Sliding Ring Gear
Braking Action Automatic In-The-Drum
Drum Size Diameter2.52"(64mm) Length 8.82"(224mm)
Cable 88ft of 3/8" diameter (27m of 9.5mm)
Fairlead: 4-Way Roller Fairlead
Remote Control Included
Battery:
Recommended: 650CCA minimum for winching
Battery Leads: 2 gauge,72" (1.83m)
Weight: N.W.:38kg G.W.:40kg
Overall dimensions: (LxWxH)21.3"x6.3"x8.6"(562x160x218mm)
Mounting Bolt Pattern: 10.00±0.015"x4.50±0.010"(254x114.3mm)
MEAS
61x19.5x48.5cm (1pc)

Speed, Amperes, Volts (First Layer):
Line Pull (lbs./ kg) Line Speed FPM(m/min) Motor (Amps)
0
22.0ft (6.5m) 80
4000 (1818) 11.5ft (3.5m) 170
6000 (2727) 9.8ft (3m) 210
8000 (3636) 8.2ft (2.5m) 250
10000 (4545) 6.8t (2.1m) 300
12000 (5454)
5.6ft (1.7m)
360
Line Pull And Rope Capacity In Layer
Layer
Rated Line Pull (lbs./kgs) Total Rope On Drum (ft/m )
1 12000 (5454) 17.6 (5.4)
2 9530 (4331) 37 (11.4)
3 7920 (3600) 63 (19.4)
4 6770 (3077) 85.0 (26.0)

 

[mrchips]

When ever you can buy a product made in the USA,

 

[The_Dude]

If I could afford it I could. Unfortunately this is not one of those times. I would love a warn but I am priced out of the market for those.

 

[mrchips]

I would look at Smittybuilt winch, they are priced well and you have 4WP to back you up should you have any issues. Couple friends have them and they have worked well

 

[brushogger]

Look at the Superwinch talon series. Waterproof, crazy fast, and the brake has no heat issues (not in the spool). I got my 9,5 online for $550 shipped.


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[The_Dude]

Well I ended up going with the Engo. The reviews and the winch test that the 4x4 magazine (name is escaping me) swayed me. If I am proven wrong I will invest in something nicer down the road. As it looks though the Engos seem to have the best bang for the buck!

 

[mountain4x4]

Do you by chance have any input or updates on your Engo12k winch? I am looking at purchasing one!

Thank you

 

[joelwho]

I have an Engo 12000s. it's performed flawlessly over the past year. it helped get me out of this mess

 

[verdesardog]

Electric winches work against the brake when powering out, thus heating up the drum...just don't power out and synthetic rope should do fine.

 

[Kmrtnsn]

I've been running an Engo 10K with synthetic line for a couple of years. I've had no problems with mine.

 

[Kmrtnsn]

Also, email http://www.rockridge4wd.com/ for their best price, I think they'll make you happy.

http://www.rockridge4wd.com/i-21251...5-synthetic-rope-hawse-aluminum-fairlead.html

 

[Box Rocket]

I don't know if you've taken a look at them yet but I'd suggest checking out the ComeUp winches. I've been very happy with mine. The quality is great and it came with synthetic rope. Several sizes to choose from too.