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Thread: Diesel engine sources, anybody know of an importer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveInDenver
    That was my conclusion and decided to just rebuild my 22R-E... You will notice that the torque peak is about 2000 RPM lower than a gas engine, which makes them a better off highway mill. Thing is the 1KZ-TE is already a turbo charged engine and there isn't a whole lot of experience here in the USA on how to tune them much. Not to mention that parts will be a pain, everything will have to be shipped up from Oz or Japan or something. At least the 2L was imported for a few year and so the North American parts system has the hooks for the parts and they can be ordered.
    Same exact deal with me. I live 30 minutes from Jarco and between the power issue and finding parts in the US I just rebuilt the 22RE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neliconcept
    does the 1kzte = 3L or no? i heard the 3L have a good power ratio.
    There is a 3L engine and a 3.0 liter engine (the 1KZ). The 3L is a 2.8 liter naturally aspirated engine, made about 90 HP and 135 ft-lb of torque. With a turbo, it could do better obviously. IMO the 2L and variants (2L-T turbo and 2L-TE turbo with electronic controls) make sense mainly because of their compatibility with the 22R mounting (the blocks share exactly their mounting dimensions) and some limited availability of domestic parts. If you have to custom install, the 1KZ is a much better engine I guess with at least a few people here in the USA who have done the swap. Toyota also makes the D-4D, which is a common rail turbo diesel that is the current engine in Hiluxs and the like. None in the USA AFAIK yet. The 3.0 liter D-4D is a turbo, makes about 170 HP and 253 lb-ft. There is a 2.5 liter version that does 120 HP and 240 lb-ft of torque. The D-4D is going to be very hard to find here and seeing how the 1KZ-TE is about $5,000 for a half cut, I'd imagine the D-4D half cuts will be stupid expensive.

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    I think G&S can get half cuts, and those guys are awesome and I definetely 100% recommend them, but the guys at dieseltoyz.com exclusively uses half cuts to get the complete harnesses and all other required parts (gauges, etc). He does really clean work. You can also probably get one from him too..

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    Also I hate the 2J with a passion. It is unreliable and it is actually very hard to get parts for. The biggest issue is the reliability of the injection pump, beside it being totally gutless. They also have chronic head gasket issues. I would take a 22R over a 2L honestly, probably... Even the 2L-T is gutless... The 1KZs seem pretty cool though. I talked to the dieseltoyz guy extensively and he does good work and is definetely very knowlegble. Hope it helps...

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    Quote Originally Posted by neliconcept
    does the 1kzte = 3L or no? i heard the 3L have a good power ratio.

    my brother tunes a lot of diesel trucks, may be different on a toy motor but i think it can be done.

    im gonna keep this option open for the most part. for one my bro is teaching me how to make bio fuel, so that would benefit me money wise.
    Yep... IKZ's are 3.0L I4 Turbo Diesel's. THe E denotes the elecreonic fuel management/or injection I belive???

    Man, if you do this I am gonna be forever jealous... I'm getting ready to throw a brand new 22RE in my runner, but I was SERIOUSLY knocking around the IKZ idea. Great motor for a Runner IMO. I'll tell you it's not an easy or cheap swap. I just couldn't justify the dough. Maybe some day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Rescue
    Great motor for a Runner IMO. I'll tell you it's not an easy or cheap swap. I just couldn't justify the dough.
    I've never had the chance to see or drive a 1KZ-swapped truck. So they are nice, then? The numbers would suggest so and naturally all the Internet wisdom say it's the case, but I dunno. I can't complain about my 22R-E, it accelerates alright and the mileage is fine. I spent rebuilding my 22R-E about half the cost of just getting a 1KZ-TE half cut and above that it would not be a bolt-in affair. I thought about a 2L-TE, but even that is still $3000 or $4000 for a half-cut and to gain a few MPG and have less power. Nah, thanks anyway.

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    I read somewhere that the Feds are cracking down on the half cut game. If you look at Jarco's site none are actually listed. My understanding is to comply with some new BS they are having to sell all the parts separate instead of the half cut where it sort of was a kit.

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    I drove Hillux's in OZ with them and I can only imagine that in a smaller truck like my 1st gen Runner it would be a blast. Never driven a conversion though. I also drove an older D4D swapped Hillux PU (89 factory SFA greatness) and that thing was amazing. Reving power like a gasser, and a nice diesel torque curve. The IKZ Hillux's felt about the same as the TD HZJ75 series I usualy drove (read: smaller motor in a lighter truck)


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    How do you get around the smog issue swapping in a diesel? I've thought about building a veggie machine but don't want to deal with emissisions laws.
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    Depends largely where you are located. In smog counties in Utah you fill out an official affavit explaining the conversion and you are good to do. You are even issued a title with the engine, cyls, and fuel it runs. You then get a diesel test which is reportedly a breeze to pass around here despite our strict emissions laws...

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