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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    China is still a disaster. US sales, the bright spot but already poor , declined for the 2nd straight month after significant marketing efforts. Land Rover was down 6% while Jaguar was down 20%. Across all brands sales are now at 1999 levels. I'm shocked! .............. Not. I expect the...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Definitely looking better as the cladding is removed. That said, I'm not in the market until the I-6 td at near 400hp/lb-ft is available. From what I have seen that is 2021? Oh, and that's continuous power, not "music power" (see the audiophile wars of rms vs music power of old) JLR needs this...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    On further thought low initial quality rankings will be an issue for JLR as they attempt to reposition the LR5/Discovery as a SUV/VW Tourag/Porsche Cayanne/fill-in-the-blank
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Pressure to reduce cost and eliminate models increases as cost to finance the future increase: Jaguar Land Rover Ratings Cut By Moody's, Citing China, Electrification "........In a statement Thursday, Moody’s said it cut JLR’s corporate family rating to B1 from Ba3, with a negative outlook...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Reality Check ........... Off-Road Segment Buyer Values The off-road / outdoor segment buyers consider both safety and initial quality less important than your urban SUV buyer. If everyone ranked safety and initial quality #1 then everyone would be driving jellybeans, similar to the latest...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Agreed on the locomotive system design. That said, locomotives and associated traction motors are large and have a completely different design point. While over the road truck EV's are emerging that is also a different design point. I wonder if passenger vehicle electric motors (small) have a...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    As long as those power numbers are without electric motor drive assist I would consider them. Recall the previous method of spec'ing the latest powertrain: The P400 PHEV is advertised as "The efficient new Range Rover and Range Rover Sport P400e PHEV models provide sustainable performance by...
  8. M

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Next up? Ford and VW partnership on EV's and technology.
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    China's Father of Electric Cars Says Hydrogen Is the Future Bloomberg News June 12, 2019, 3:00 PM MDT Updated on June 13, 2019, 4:09 AM MDT "His vision to make China an electric-vehicle powerhouse revolutionized the global auto industry, cementing a move away from the combustion engine. Now...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Agreed on current hydrogen production. Still cleaner than burning gas/diesel but too expensive. The move is to leverage non-dispatchable solar and wind that currently is unused. It's called Green Hydrogen. Hydrogen cost point then drops. H2V and GE Commit to Massive Production of Hydrogen by...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    JLR and BMW partnership on next gen powertrain is just the first of several new industry partnerships that will be required for survival. China Auto Sales Just Posted Their Worst Month Ever Wed, 06/12/2019 ".......The future turned even gloomier when outgoing Daimler CEO Dieter Zetsche said...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Hydrogen is a energy storage medium, same as batteries but without the limitations of range and environment. Non-dispatchable solar and wind generated electricity with electrolyser's are used to convert water to hydrogen. Fuel cells then convert that hydrogen back to electricity and water...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    "The driver selects the appropriate terrain and ride height setting, and the computer does the rest. " LOL. The owners of vehicles equipped with TC 'assumed' that the computer did the rest. Well guess what ............ point-and-shoot was point-and-fail. There's more to a successful off-road...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    "........Back in those days, coil-spring suspension was unheard of in the off-road world. ......." Any description of suspension technology that doesn't take into account early Gen 1 Broncos says alot. Ford used coil springs 4 years before the RR was intro'd. RR hub technology was basically...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Several years ago a group of LR's took a Sunday drive through the mountains. 90's Disco's, 90's Defenders, 00's Disco's, 10's RR's. After lunch there was a hill with a nice view at the top. Broken down granite and shale the entire length. The open-diff vehicles made it maybe 20' up the incline...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Author is clueless. Coil springs were used on the gen 1 Ford Bronco. Late 60's/early 70's? Mechanical lockers are not difficult to engage. It's called a switch on the dash. As for early TC which is really just reverse ABS, it sucked. Higher sampling rates have helped but it can still suck in...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    I would expect the new Defender to have at a minimum a rear locker + traction control, similar to the LR4. This is not a new sub-system.
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Actually JLR NA sales were much better than expected. European and China volumes did decline as Brexit and China trade/quality became an issue. JLR manufacturing is Chery in China to avoid a 25% tariff. Overall volume is up but so are R&D cost as JLR develops new powertrains and new models...
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    SOTA (Software-Over-The-Air) may be a Range Rover feature but I'm not interested in JLR surveilling my every move and selling/monetizing that data. JLR is walking into a quagmire.
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    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    As noted from the Geneva auto show partnerships and consolidation are the future of vehicle development and manufacturing. The cost of R&D is high and the need to get new product into subcontractor production is also high. Many sub-systems are already sourced from common suppliers. You left...
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