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It's kind of apples to pears. Both are great off roaders in their own right. For your typically "overlanding" they're both capable. When you start getting into somewhere where you want a lot more suspension travel, that's when the Jeep starts to edge ahead. Especially when it comes to off road...

The fact it has a BMW engine along with the ZF, it makes a lot of sense to use the shifter module.

29,000 according to what I was told today. The US market will receive 1/3 of that number.

It would just be under domestic sub forum like with the Rangers etc. Same reason why you have "Jeep" and not "Wrangler" and "Grand Cherokee"

The largest risk is whether or not it will do well sales wise - and then value. Will they drop like a rock? Go up? Today on the test drives they were talking about the dealers they partnered with have to be able to sell these without making a profit ( like your typical big store dealership...

Test drove them today in Dahlonega, GA They are SUPER freaking smooth off road. The suspension travel is ridiculous but yet somehow they body stays upright/doesnt keep over like a Wrangler does. B58's torque is fantastic too. Visibility is excellent.

Do it - and join up on the Starion/Conquest facebook groups as they are VERY familiar with the engine - albeit they have the turbo version, for all intents and purposes a lot is the same.

Friend met up with a guy out of Quebec with a Taco and then went out west - Grand Teton Natl Park

friends frontier in Grand Teton

DAJIBAN!

I know a few members hit the dirt with a D5, but curious if anyone has taken an L405 RR off the beaten trail?

Yeah, that's from last summer. Speaking with them in person they stated they wanted it less than a Landcruiser since globally the 70 series is their target market. Figure the commercial one ( 2 seater ) is being priced at $49k EU. We will see in the end.

Below the Land Cruiser -they were stating their target market in the USA is the Wrangler Rubicon, 4Runner TRD Pro, and Bronco Outer Banks. That puts it around $55k. There aren't many options. Lockers, leather seats, carpeting, safari windows ( the ones above the driver and passenger seat ), and...

MSRP is $85k, and... you sure?

https://grenadierprototypetour.com/

Checked out the prototype today in person I think they've done a great job - its shorter than a Gladiator, a little longer than a Wrangler. Engine is the BMW B58 retuned for torque as opposed to horsepower, and to run on 87 instead of 93. Visibility is awesome. Rear doors reminds me of an...

My one vice about Lexus' base trim is you cannot get the Mark Levinson sound system - even as optional

They didn't. They just didn't happen to be invited for whatever reason - but TFL did release ar eview video 2 weeks ago.

Rough Country has already lifted one 6 inches

Rough Country EXO another one in the same cateogry is a Warn Ascent if you're looking for slimmer ones