Coffee Makers?


Tail-End Charlie
How exactly does that Moka thing work?
Works like an old fashioned percolator. Fill bottom with water, add desired quantity of espresso ground coffee and perc.
Sorry, but no. That is a common misconception and completely wrong. They are totally different.

A percolater boils the water, which then bubbles up through the capillary tube and spreads out over the basket and drips down. It then gets boiled and recycled until the coffee grounds are fully leeched out and maximum strength is achieved.

A moka pot boils the water in the lower chamber under pressure to make steam. This is why moka pots have a safety pressure relief valve on the lower chamber. The steam is forced up through the grounds under pressure then through a capillary tube into the upper chamber. One time through, no reboiling or recycling the brewed coffee.

Steam, forced through the grounds under pressure - that is the definition of "espresso" (express). Moka pots absolutely do make espresso.

Properly tamping (packing) the coffee basket to achieve the right resistance to achieve the right steam pressure is a bit of an art, but is as important as the proper fine espresso grind. You'll know if you packed it too tight if the pressure valve vents steam.

(And Starbucks is horrid. My personal opinion is they must achieve their signature flavor by simply overroasting the beans until they achieve a nice uniform state of being burned. Then it always tastes the same...burned. Oh, I'll drink it if there's nothing else...and try not to gag.)


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I have to have my coffee, but i typically just prefer a simple cup. Camping, regardless of the method...camper, tailgate, kayak expedition, backpack...I use a 4 cup percolator that i bought for $2 at a garage sale years ago. Durable, easy to clean, will work on a Coleman stove, a MSR whisper jet stove, electric or gas stovetop, or a campfire. It leaves some coffee grounds occasionally. But that just makes you feel alive!

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I cold brew my coffee, filter, heat and drink it black. Never liked the acidity in hot brewed coffee and always had to cover it up with cream.
Cold brew does not mean you drink it cold. Heating a cold brewed coffee does not make it bitter like re-heating a boiled brewed coffee. Boiled brewed coffee has acidity released from the coffee beans. Cold brew has no acidity, even when re-heated. Make a double strength batch, 50/50 water and brew and brew less often. I make a quart of double strength at a time.


I'm not sure if this may be too "basic" but I just bought the new Nespresso Expert by Breville espresso and coffee machine a few weeks ago, and I'm loving it! It makes great espresso. I'd say it's about 99% close to the real Starbucks taste. This is a pretty basic machine, it uses pods, and makes espresso in 15 seconds. Now you did mention you were looking for a grinder too, so this may not be it. But if you are looking for a simple, great working machine that makes great espresso, I'd highly recommend it. And, it's only $330.
But starbux espresso is terrible for anyone who know what great espresso is.


Wiffleball Batter
After trying percolators and a French press I've gone back to a simple pour-over Melitta filter. Unlike the French Press which requires more time and requires cleaning, with the Melitta I just put the filter in the drip cup with ground coffee in it, pour in hot water and voila: Coffee! Clean up couldn't be simpler: Just throw the filter away with coffee grounds inside and wipe out the drip cup.

Is a French press 'better'? Well, define "better." The Melitta is good enough for me, takes up very little space and requires zero maintenance or cleanup.

I'm not a coffee snob anyway, I was in the Army and Army coffee doubles as paint remover. :D