Sorry dude we will have to agree to disagree. If you want the Ford diesel the consumer is forced to buy an upper trim model. Sorry you don't like that word. There are no other options.
Simply pointing that a few of us actually use and abuse our trucks. And have no need for candied asses nancy boy urban cowboy interiors. Makes no sense to offer a workhorse engine in the non-work trim levels.
Not complaining, that is truth sprinkle with sarcasm! Which seems to fly over your head. Swear you have the sense of humor of a dead carp. You're too gawd damn serious. **** man go camping or something. Nobody may care what I do, but at least I am getting out and doing something!
Why are you even arguing about Fords anyways? You have said time and time again that you don't like them. For someone who dislikes the brand you sure do like to defend them for some odd reason. At least I like the company and have owned Fords in the past. 8 of them if you're counting.
If I remember correctly to have a "fleet number" you have to have like 10 or 12 vehicles registered in your name. They had a deal a while back on fleet stuff and the dealer couldn't get me in on it, I had around 7 trucks at the time.
You are a broken record in every thread regarding newer vehicles. We get it, you don't want to pay for these newer vehicles and you wish they were all cheaper with no creature-comfort options offered with whatever powertrain configuration you wanted with minimal electronics.
C-channel vs. boxed frames is the funniest one. I think some would fight over that one lol.We could of done it when we owned our swimming pool/wood burning stove business. But that has been long been sold.
Had 10 vehicles IIRC not including the earth moving equipment.
Most everyone is a broken record on here. Just about every topic has been beaten to death on here by the same inmates over and over.
Wanna talk about payloads...or c-channel vs boxed frames, or what suspension is best for a Tacoma? Or best yet...how about Global Warming! There are a plethera of the same threads again and again. Face it majority of people are creatures of habit.
We all view the world differently!Okay, you're entitled to your version of the "truth."
Have fun riding your bike.
C-channel vs. boxed frames is the funniest one. I think some would fight over that one lol.
We all view the world differently!
Hell yeah love riding the scooter! Took me 7 hours to get to this spot on Monday. Had to cut 70+ blow downs to get there. Fought me all the way to the end. But man, the view was worth it! So what did you do this past weekend? Tell the group a little about yourself. View attachment 455697
Weekend plans... I think I made 3 trips to Home Depot and Lowes Saturday. I have been gone every weekend for 2 months, time to catch up on chores.
We all view the world differently!
Not taking sides, but I do enjoy his pics.Yep, but when you consistently parade your views and off-topic pictures on these threads, people get a little sick of it.
The thread is about the diesel F-150. If you don't like and don't want to buy it, say so and move on so that other people can discuss the original topic.
Yep, but when you consistently parade your views and off-topic pictures on these threads, people get a little sick of it.
The thread is about the diesel F-150. If you don't like and don't want to buy it, say so and move on so that other people can discuss the original topic.
Not taking sides, but I do enjoy his pics.
I don't know where the luxury packages got all of the fan fare. Americans going into debt too often? Or just keeping up with the Jones's?
The XL's are just leather and a power seat frame, away from being a Lariat from just a few years ago. I really don't like paying $20,000 extra for fake leather that'll be ruined in a few years, broken cameras, leaky moonroofs, more fracking plastic badges, and a soft daddy looking paint scheme. I'll pay extra for lockers, and 4wd.
The Lariats, Limiteds, KR's all kinda stink. Look where 90% of your warranty problems are.
I swear, if Ford offered a $10,000 sticker package with different seat covers, people would line up for it. The XL seats are actually more comfortable than the high end seats (no piping to vacuum your butt cold, or glut massagers, just foam), you can still add Katskin's leather if you want to.
And those packages only return more when you sell the truck, if all of the bling bling, and electronics, still works. Best example is the high end Excursions and Suburbans of old. Broken everything, and wrinkled torn leather drives the price of those way down cheap. For weekend warrior stuff, XL and XLT is the way to go.
Everyone keeps calling them $80,000 trucks. If you remove all of the useless add-ons that we have never needed before, they're only $38,000.