General Differences Between a 2M and a CB?

#46
An HT is a necessity for back country as well as in town use.

I have a Yaesu VX-7R. Small, quad band(6m, 2m, 1.25m, 70cm) and it is waterproof. I got it in November before the rains came. Much as I like my Kenwood D7A, it is heavy and not waterproof. I use my HT every morning when I walk the dog.

Small and light, + if I am wheeling with people with Ham rigs, you can get out and spot/check the trail, etc while staying in touch. Keep this in mind with a cb as well, have a handheld in addition to your mobile, you will find lots of use for it.

I would highly recommend both.

As an intial radio, I would recommend a HT. Less variables to worry about.
 
#47
Sounds as if I could really get the Jeep loaded with radios and no room for lunch. To start with would a 2 meter radio be ok or a dual band one? I really have no idea if I would want to go any higher on the radio useage like a 10 meter or something. I found that ICOM with 7 watts and I thought it might be powerful enough for what I need.
Steve
 
#48
Steve Curren said:
Sounds as if I could really get the Jeep loaded with radios and no room for lunch. To start with would a 2 meter radio be ok or a dual band one? I really have no idea if I would want to go any higher on the radio useage like a 10 meter or something. I found that ICOM with 7 watts and I thought it might be powerful enough for what I need.
Steve
I have a friend with 10 radios and 14 antennas. A little extreme, but he has a ford extradition(somehow the word expedition doesn't seem to apply!).

No need to go overboard.

A radio is a means of communication. If you have 50 bands and the people you are expeditioning with only have 1, that is the only one you need. THings to consider(as always)

1.) Cost
2.) Intended use(are you going to be hanging out on repeaters during commute?Or just using it for trail use)
3.) How populated an area are you are going to be using it
4.) How much interest do you have in Radio for Radios sake
5.) How much interest you have in going to the upper license levels
6.) How much interest you have in multi-tier/more complex communications(APRS for example)

I would recommend a dual-bander off the bat for most people if you are a ham who is serious about adventuring or if you are an adventure-head who is serious about communications(and have the money for a dual bander.)

If you have a group that you go out on the trail with and they are all licensed and using 2ms and that is the only use you have for it, a 2m should be fine.

BUT, remember, the more radio options that you have available are the more options you have when you need it.

Be aware that most hams are kind of....well....paranoid. They spend great amounts of time preparing for disasters, so that they will be able to use their gear to help(<<Objective comment, not meant good or bad)

A side benefit of running a dual band rig is then you can access repeaters on two different bands. I commute 100 miles a day, and the commute has gotten much better since I talk on the radio all the way into work and back(on both 2m and 70cm bands).

The Bay area is pretty dense as far as the Ham population goes. We have 3-4pretty active repeaters around. Last time I went to Hollister Hills, I was talking with people over on Fremont peak(Hold on a second, I need to check my flex....)

I have met a lot of cool people with various backgrounds. It is kind of fun to be talking to tow truck drivers about winches (and the crane the had to tow home last night, or the pickup they had to yank out of a gully), the guy running comms for the Sea Otter, the network guy for Laguna Seca raceway, as well as firmware engineers for Hard Drives and software project managers.

I digress

To answer your question get what you can afford, although it doesn't hurt to buy a little over. I wouldn't worry about 6m, 10m or lower bands though.

Hope that helps!
 
#49
I understand where you are coming from, I don't imagine I will be running with too many people with 2 meter or 70 cm radios but I think it would be good to have an HT that could make contact with others if help was needed. I also may go places with those who do have the 2 meter or 70 cm radios and it would be nice to communicate with them. HT dual band is what I shall get and I am going to order one tonight.
Thanks to you and everyone who has answered my cry for help.
Steve
 
#50
BajaTaco said:
I don't think there is one.
low power. period.

my teeny yaesu VX-7R is only 5 watts.

my last event, i volunteered as a comm worker for a race (rim of the world rally) and since this was held in a hilly national forest, my TX was on the low side.

i really needed 35-50 watts.
 
#51
i did have a FMJ mag mount on top of my 4runner. i think that kinda helped a bit.

on the couple yahoo groups for the VX-7, a few mentioned an outboard amp/docking setup where it kinda turns it into a mobile... but no longer made.
 

DaveInDenver

Expedition Leader
#52
ldivinag said:
i did have a FMJ mag mount on top of my 4runner. i think that kinda helped a bit.

on the couple yahoo groups for the VX-7, a few mentioned an outboard amp/docking setup where it kinda turns it into a mobile... but no longer made.
That would be pretty cool. You could use a Mirage BD35, which is a 2m/70cm amplifier. I think 5W in gets 45W out on 2m.
 
#54
Amps are fine, but I think an HT can do quite a lot with a quality external antenna on the roof of your rig. I would definitely start with that.
 
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