Velocity plays a big role in cavitation and energy transfer as well. Here are some stats of a few comparable rounds:My information on ballistics - by the way - is available from the Army Research Laboratory (ARL) and the Impacts and Explosives Effects Branch of the Geotechnical and Structures Laboratory at the Engineer Research and Development Center (ERDC).
I work at ERDC.
Don't get me wrong- I'm not offended at all and I'd put my money on the deer being quite dead after getting brained. I'm not squeamish and would like to see the damage to the skull and underlying brain. I'm guessing most folks haven't spent much time in or around a slaughterhouse or small farm. Lots of folks still kill cattle with a ball peen hammer and a solid hits renders them DRT (dead right there) and they weigh a hell of a lot more than a deer. I've seen sheep and goats killed this way too- it used to be pretty standard in slaughterhouses. Heck, a captive bolt pistol is basically the same thing and that's the standard these days. Folks might want to look up how animals are killed under Halal and Kosher rules too. I doubt most of us would pass on a good Jewish deli sandwich (pastrami on rye :drool: ) or some halal kabobs.It was the ranger 155gr JHP,
I should have left that part out in hindsight or described it better. It wasn't like the animal was moving, it was just those tiny muscle spasms that you hardly notice shortly after the animal has died. Every dead animal has them, this one just lasted longer than usual.
I just took a pic of the skull but its kind of bloody and I'm sure that would not go over too well either :Wow1:
Not to get off topic, but its widely agreed that slaughtering an animal the kosher or halaal way is the most ethical manner and the most hygienic method. Both methods involve draining the blood from the animal. Both methods do not allow for the animal to suffer any pain during the process or to allow the animal to see others of its own kind killed.Folks might want to look up how animals are killed under Halal and Kosher rules too. I doubt most of us would pass on a good Jewish deli sandwich (pastrami on rye :drool: ) or some halal kabobs.
It was not a hunt, but it definitely was a record kill. She was in her cabin alone and the bear was out in front of her place. She said she was scared knowing that it was out there so she shot it with the only thing she had, a .22LR I believe. I wasn't, by any means, saying it is a good idea to do. But looking at the pure ballistics of it I think it is very interesting, and also humorous. She followed her first shot with about 5 or 6 more shots in about a 3" group, all of them penetrating the skull. A .22LR is also known to hit a human skull and only penetrate the skin, passing between the skin and skull and ending up on the other side of the head. Ballistics is a very interesting topic.This is kind of the "golden BB" type of success that I ascribe to the ultra-long range and micro margin-of-error shot.
That being said there is a great deal of difference in .22 caliber rounds (and near comparable caliber): .22 long rifle, .22 Winchester, .22 magnum, .22 hornet, .223 Winchester (not quite NATO 5.56mm), 5.56mm NATO (in a variety of round configurations)...None of which is an acceptable round to consider for a successful grizzly bear hunt.
It can happen, but I doubt that the "little old woman" was baiting a bear armed with her .22LR rifle either (let alone a pistol - automatic or revolver) - her own life would be at much greater peril if that were the case even if she were to have peppered that bear with a SAW. Not buying it. Don't misunderstand me, she shot a grizzly with a .22 caliber round and the bear died. I got it. It happened you say. I just don't think it was a planned hunt. Sounds like one of the Field and Stream "Real Life Survival Stories in the Field" episodes that I have read - ala Ripley's Believe It Or Not.
Off topic: Makes me think of the off-color joke where the bear winds up saying to the three times unsuccessful hunter, "You don't really come out here to hunt do you?"