Looking for 100 series

toylandcruiser

Expedition Leader
The problem is even though we are taking about Toyota Land Cruiser I still believe 200 is much more fragile , less capable and a lot more complex than the 100 and as numbers go up it gets worse,
I may be wrong, but history proved that’s true with every automaker.

Hummers, H1 H2 h3
Toyota’s, 60 80 100 200
land rovers d1 d2 d3
Tacoma gen 1 2 3 4

Numbers go up capability drops, complexity goes up.
100 series is what I would consider sweet spot.
Far from more fragile.
 

Deshet

Adventurer
If you pass up the 1994 with lockers please send the details it my way.
If the cosmetics are not terrible $4500 is a great deal. I would really like a triple locker LX450.

Thanks
 

4Beast

Observer
The problem is even though we are taking about Toyota Land Cruiser I still believe 200 is much more fragile , less capable and a lot more complex than the 100 and as numbers go up it gets worse,
I may be wrong, but history proved that’s true with every automaker.

Hummers, H1 H2 h3
Toyota’s, 60 80 100 200
land rovers d1 d2 d3
Tacoma gen 1 2 3 4

Numbers go up capability drops, complexity goes up.
100 series is what I would consider sweet spot.
I think that referring to the 200 as fragile is a mistake. It is certainly one generation more complex and theoretically has more to break, but all vehicles have a "weak spot," which often can be ameliorated with PM or aftermarket parts. After over a decade of production, I think we would know if the 200 was "fragile," but they seem to have the ability to rack up the miles the same as their predecessors, and many of them are still in stock trim. If you object to the looks (as i do somewhat, unless they are lifted on 37s) that's fine. If you want reliable, tough and simple, maybe you should look at a 60 with a 4 or 6BT conversion. Get a mechanical diesel, no frills, cargo capacity, solid axle, aftermarket support, and the ability to easily go to 35s or 37s. One of those could certainly be had for $24k
 

hayde89

Member

Read through this thread. If anyone would know it's cruiser outfitters. Probably one of the most trusted cruiser shops in the USA. T Hey are anything but fragile. If you are worried about electronics then the 100 isn't right for you either. Sit in an 2008 and a 2007 the interior is very similar you still have hvac and nav issues. If you are looking for something less complicated then you need to be looking at a 60.
 

Deshet

Adventurer
The 200 is plush, not weak
The 5.7 with timing chains is probably the best gas engine put into a Landcruiser in recent times. Would not be surprised if the 200 got better fuel mileage then the 100 and 80.
I have seen a 5.7 Sequoia with over 400,000 miles

You also have to look at the target audience for new car sells. North Americans that buy new LC aren't doing the same things with them as South Africans that buy new LC. They have the off-road capabilities but they have to look and feel as nice as a Mercedes or Cadillac to sell here.

If you consider real world terrain and conditions the 200 maybe one of the best all around stock vehicles that Toyota has built.

If you have driven through central and south American or through dirt roads towns of developing countries you can appreciate an independent front suspension.




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