Mr heater buddy heaters in tents overnight

robert

Expedition Leader
Pros.. Inexpensive and quite safe. Max temperature is self regulating. Within a crowded camper, would hard pressed to catch alight something or seriously burn yourself.
Cons... They use electricity.
Energy only changes form. There is no free lunch.

Also they don't add moisture to the air and can be used to help dry clothes if you hang them on a line above the heater. I tried one of the small ceramic heaters in my VW camper when I had it but went back to a radiant style with the metal heating strip that I have that I liked better; it's a little larger and seemed to do a better job at the time not only keeping the van warmer but helping keep the windows from icing. I have used the small ceramic heater in the back of the truck but have to keep it turned all the way down or it gets too hot.
 

billiebob

Well-known member
the theory is simple
if it burns gas it burns oxygen
the only safe way to do that is if the burner is outside and a heat exchanger brings the heat inside
anything else either consumes oxygen you breath or exhales carbon monoxide which kills

I cannot believe you can still buy heaters designed to kill
 

billiebob

Well-known member
I mean too dry air
moisture in the air is more of a problem in a close environment like a camper
tuberculosis thrives in a closed moist environment. think dry for health
the box bed in Scotland 100 years ago is very much like a teardrop camper, tent today.
TB has killed thousands

moist air carries disease....... dry air.... Arizona etc...... known for healthy living
 

robert

Expedition Leader
the theory is simple
if it burns gas it burns oxygen
the only safe way to do that is if the burner is outside and a heat exchanger brings the heat inside
anything else either consumes oxygen you breath or exhales carbon monoxide which kills

I cannot believe you can still buy heaters designed to kill
Well as you say, it's simple- they aren't designed to kill. Man has heated inside his living space for thousands of years, you just have to provide enough ventilation for fresh air and venting of exhaust. Do people die from failure to do so? Sure, some by accident, i.e. snow blocked vent, others by stupidity, i.e. lack of ventilation, but neither is the device's fault- not that it's ever stopped unscrupulous lawyers (is that redundant?) from suing so that companies like Coleman quit producing their excellent little Coleman fuel and propane heaters.
 
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robert

Expedition Leader
moisture in the air is more of a problem in a close environment like a camper
tuberculosis thrives in a closed moist environment. think dry for health
the box bed in Scotland 100 years ago is very much like a teardrop camper, tent today.
TB has killed thousands

moist air carries disease....... dry air.... Arizona etc...... known for healthy living

TB is not a problem in most areas unless you're hanging out in a TB ward, an illegal alien detention facility or tight quarters with someone who has an active phase of it, i.e. prison or a family member. Mold is a much bigger problem in campers.

Arizona has a TB rate consistent with the rest of the US (Cases of active TB disease reported in Arizona totaled 198 in 2015. The 2015 TB case rate in Arizona was 2.9 per 100,000 population compared to 3.0 per 100,000 nationally. https://www.azdhs.gov/documents/preparedness/epidemiology-disease-control/disease-integrated-services/tb-control/reports/2015-tb-surveillance-report.pdf) Arizona also has hantavirus and plague if you want to highlight uncommon diseases in the US.
 
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AbleGuy

[Back] Roads Scholar
Cons... They use electricity.
Energy only changes form. There is no free lunch.
Thx, I wasn’t sure if the poster had meant the electric ceramic heaters or the propane ones (there are some propane ceramic units), so I’m wondering about the propane ones ??? Anyone?
 

AbleGuy

[Back] Roads Scholar
moisture in the air is more of a problem in a close environment like a camper
tuberculosis thrives in a closed moist environment. think dry for health

moist air carries disease....... dry air.... Arizona etc...... known for healthy living
Well, yeah, except maybe for the sky rocketing rates of new cases of lung blistering Valley Fever found in people who live in or visit Arizona each year?
 

AbleGuy

[Back] Roads Scholar
Oh yeah, and then there’s this:
Phoenix area among worst in nation for air pollution, study finds

Not to be argumentative, but please....don’t think moving to Arizona is a good idea for respiratory health.

Tucson-area air quality the worst in five years


Now.....back to our regularly scheduled broadcast....
 
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calicamper

Expedition Leader
The moisture issue is why we only use ours in the tent to warm up the tent before everyone besides me crawls out of their cozy sleeping bags. Then we can air out the tent during the day to dry things out.

Cold. Get a warmer sleeping bag or add a warm throw over your bags. You know its cold when you sleep like the dead, out on the open ground only to wake up in the morning totally covered in snow. Man talk about a trippy waking. I was so fucking confused for a few moments my Dad thought I was having a medical issue. LOL
 
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