my experience with GMRS so far

dreadlocks

Well-known member
there's only 8 GMRS frequencies that require a license, and those are the Repeater Inputs.. shouldn't really be working those on simplex, they should be free so repeaters can be sensitive to handhelds.. I heard someone last time I was out camping working it simplex, they were offroading w/a drone following em apparently.. sigh.

everything else you share with FRS, which should be power limited so feel free to stomp on those freeloaders if you must :p
 

Billoftt

Active member
...they were offroading w/a drone following em apparently.. sigh.
But did you really go off-roading if you didn't share a video on social media? It's just like working out, you can't make any serious gains unless you Instagram it and your steps won't matter unless it's on Facebook.
 

BigDaveZJ

Adventurer
Gotcha, a lot of the info on the web seems to be prior to the 2017 changes. I thought there were dedicated GMRS only channels, but its really just that we can use more power on the FRS channels with our GMRS.

I need to look into the repeaters a bit more too. There's only a couple I can hit from where I usually am and they don't appear to work with the Midland stuff I have.
 

DaveInDenver

Expedition Leader
Gotcha, a lot of the info on the web seems to be prior to the 2017 changes. I thought there were dedicated GMRS only channels, but its really just that we can use more power on the FRS channels with our GMRS.

I need to look into the repeaters a bit more too. There's only a couple I can hit from where I usually am and they don't appear to work with the Midland stuff I have.
After the 2017 revisions GMRS and FRS share most channels except for the repeater inputs, which are GMRS-only. The stipulation is FRS must use lower power, have a fixed antenna and is the secondary user to the primary user (e.g. the one who bought the license).

It's likely the hooligans dreadlock came across were using a non-Type approved radio since a properly made GMRS radio wouldn't transmit on the repeater inputs without using an offset (if it's repeater capable at all, most only work simplex on the repeater output frequency) and an FRS radio wouldn't transmit at all on GMRS input frequencies. But don't ask, don't tell w.r.t. non-GMRS radios, eh?
 

BigDaveZJ

Adventurer
Also, I think rather than just stomping on the guys at Ace with my 15w radio I think I'll just use it to page them to come out and refill my propane tanks rather than using the buzzer they have out there, lol.
 

dreadlocks

Well-known member
They were toned up, I announced my callsign and said I was listening and they didnt hear me, or respond anyhow.. honestly, using em for simplex if your licensed and need some space would not be end of the world, using it is better than letting it sit and rot because repeater network is so sparse.. I actually have my radios programed to do that as a failover simplex (low power) channel just incase.. BUT, they are not tone squelched so I can hear any other traffic on em, if you tone up then you cant monitor it for traffic, or worse you could use the same tone that keys up a repeater inadvertently.

The only time I think I remember needing to use em simplex was at races/events when everyone and grandma has a FRS.. dunno why you'd even need it in BFE, not like you dont have your pick of frequencies.. I also keep it programmed as a backup in case someone strays outside of repeater range, can still hear em on that channel if you get within simplex range.. but haven't needed to use it for that purpose.

All my handheld are programed to just a few select channels and tones, then a couple of backup channels and then an emergency frequency (National Call).. all of it's unique to my setup, but its idiot proof and cheap as hell to get 6 good durable mini radios and a 6 gang charger.. nobody but the kids liked my old 5lb police radios you could beat someone to death with, honestly I didnt either.. My vehicle is scanning when its parked at camp.

Now that you can buy off the shelf mobile radios that support repeaters, I'm really debating spending about ~$1500 for a legit licensed repeater here soon (then another $400 in antenna) instead of my hackeyshack one, it'd be capable of repeating all the tones.. really any tone could activate it, I'd be a bit annoyed if someone was working it simplex accidently because they were too dense to know any better.. the idea of having call groups would be nice, especially if I open it up to public use.

My program is:
  • #1 My Repeater Duplex (Tone/Primary)
  • #2 My Repeater Output Simplex (Tone/Primary Simplex)
  • #3-#6 Repeater Output Simplex (Tone/Secondary Simplex)
  • #9 - National Emergency Simplex (Tone/Wide)
  • #15 - Repeater Talkabout (Duplex Rx/Tx Switched)
  • #20-#50 - Backup Frequencies - All Frequencies Sequentially Simplex (No Tone)
99.999% of the time I'm using the top 2 channels, and it just depends if I have the repeater with me and setup or not.. the only channels scanned by handhelds are #2-#9, and I lock all the buttons but xmit when I hand em out to most people.
 
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