My RAM/Lance 650 Adventure(s)

#16
Thanks Jonathon. No, I never considered the 6.4 gasser. I thought that since I was underpowered with the 5.7, that I would swing to the other side and get the most power. At 385 HP and 930 lb/ft of torque, the power is eye popping and really amazing. And I am sensitive to fuel economy, and the Cummins is the best in that respect. Cost of fuel, initial buy-in of the truck, potential maintenance costs don't concern me. I wanted the power, fuel economy, and well, I just love diesels. My last was my Mercedes Benz E-320 CDI turbodiesel, which was the last of the iron block straight six turbo diesels from Mercedes. Amazing engine--power and fuel economy. I miss that car...my current gas E-Class Mercedes is no where as satisfying to drive. There is just something about driving a diesel... So, no, I never considered the 6.4. I think that a 2500 with a Cummins will not have very good payload at all since the engine is so heavy. Need the 3500 if you go diesel and want a TC.
 
#17
Nice setup! Was the 6.4 Hemi ever a consideration?

We are looking at a 2500 CCSB Tradesman with the 6.4 to eventually put a slide in on. On paper it has a 3600lb payload looks good, I wonder if reality is the Cummins does that much better?
I would look at the sticker on the actual truck you are considering or one as close as you can find it before putting too much stock in the payloads listed on the Ram website. My truck showed up with 400# less than they listed for a 3500 SRW Crew Laramie 4wd Cummins. If you are buying a truck specifically to haul a slide in camper, there is absolutely zero reason to buy a 2500 instead of a 3500. You are literally throwing payload away for no reason.
 
#18
I thought I would show you what I do when the camper is off the truck. Instead of using a hard shell topper, I use a Softopper. This keeps the weather out of the bed of the truck, but folds like a convertible top (though forward toward the cab) to load large items. It removes easily when using the camper. The rear and the sides roll up too. Nice product. I had one on my Toyota Tacoma too (miss that Taco).

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grogie

I Like to Camp
#19
Wonderful setup, and is what I long term want to do. Either I’d tow my Jeep on occasion or pull the off-road trailer I built for my Jeep.

Could I ask you to discuss not going dually? Which for one I realize is the size of a dually.

Thanks for sharing. :)
 

Mundo4x4Casa

West slope, N. Ser. Nev.
#20
Good solutions here. The best way to learn is the hard way. It seems to stick better when you jump ship and encounter an abrupt cashectomy. AFA gas vs. diesel, my view is one of distance. If you plan on keeping the TC for a long time, say, 200K miles, then an oil burner can be a better choice with enough time to drive your way through the diesel penalty. If you are new to TC-ing and don't know how long you will be in the game, or a short timer, then a Hemi or even an older V-10 gas would supply you with enough power, if not good gas mileage. My neighbor bought a 1997 Dodge 2500 4WD V-10 with 40K miles for $3500. It almost has as much torque as my Cummins and a lot more HP. It needed tires and one of the cat converters to be replaced. That's all. It's his ranch truck. He uses it for short runs to carry feed and hay, or pulling a 4-horse trailer for his many 4 footed inhabitants, so the 6 mpg he gets doing that doesn't even register as bad considering the low miles per year he puts on it.
As an aside, my 2001.5 Dodge Cummins with 505 TQ and 245 HP seems very anemic compared to the latest Diesel Warz offerings, but with the 6 speed manual and 4.10 gears it still gets 13-14 mpg with the loaded camper on and with only 174K miles should do this for a long time. It has only a replacement 4" pipe and a muffler. No DEF tank, soot bag, or any other anti-smog appliances.
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#21
I thought I would show you what I do when the camper is off the truck. Instead of using a hard shell topper, I use a Softopper. This keeps the weather out of the bed of the truck, but folds like a convertible top (though forward toward the cab) to load large items. It removes easily when using the camper. The rear and the sides roll up too. Nice product. I had one on my Toyota Tacoma too (miss that Taco).

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I'd miss that Tacoma too, that to me is still the best model they ever made. I had a 2001 (first year of that body style) DC TRD, sadly it was totaled in a wreck.

Have you had any issues with those Soft Toppers in regards to leaks and durability?
 
#22
Wonderful setup, and is what I long term want to do. Either I’d tow my Jeep on occasion or pull the off-road trailer I built for my Jeep.

Could I ask you to discuss not going dually? Which for one I realize is the size of a dually.

Thanks for sharing. :)
@grogie , a dually is simply too big for my purposes. I doubt I'd be able to garage it. Thanks for your note!
 
#23
Have you had any issues with those Soft Toppers in regards to leaks and durability?
Softoppers are durable, but you can get leaks at the bed rails in really heavy rains. Nothing major, but they are not perfectly water tight in my experience. The only problem I have had is not the fault of the Softopper. I had it stored in my shed, and a mouse set up shop in the folds and chewed a quarter sized hole in it. It was dumb of me to not wrap it up before storing it. They do sell a cover for it when it is folded--I'd recommend it!
 

Regcabguy

Expedition Leader
#24
Nice setup! Was the 6.4 Hemi ever a consideration?

We are looking at a 2500 CCSB Tradesman with the 6.4 to eventually put a slide in on. On paper it has a 3600lb payload looks good, I wonder if reality is the Cummins does that much better?
Test drive them both. I think a diesel w/Aisin trans would work well for you. Make it a 3500 and get the rear leafs.
 
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