I just bought the original SnowPeak chair, brand new for $90 from backcountry.com. I've tried a few different ones and I thought I really liked it then. However, I'm returning it due to the complete lack of lower back support. I currently have a Helinox and the REI version of the Helinox. I'll be ordering another Helinox and then I'm done, hopefully. I don't like the setup and breakdown time of these chairs but they're light and compact and that matters to me since I'm always short on room on our family trips.